Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:25 pm
mkhammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:14 pm
I'm not innocent myself mate from some of the stuff you mentioned.....but there's using the system...and taking the piss...
and working while claiming benefits crosses the line for me......but admit the line is a bit flexible....
And claiming benefits while knocking out a bit of blow or whatever...is a fuckin NO NO...But we all know someone that does
...
Odd job here and there for a couple ton whatever ...fair enough.....pulling in 30 grand a year...different matter...
Also depends on circumstances...couple young kids...just been laid off....I'd do it if could get away with it...
you do the best for your family...whatever that takes....but you know as well as me...there's some lazy arseholes out there
who have no intention of working....
Blame Blair for the Benefits life style choice, instead of it being a fallback system for people that actually need it.
Caused a situation where by a lot of people were far far better of on the dole than going to work...and I mean hugely
better off....
The Tories wont have that....a lot wont like it it...but it's wrong to have someone making more for not going to work
than a guy that does...
Imo the Tories are every bit as bad. Have they done anything to plug the glaring loopholes .? Of course they haven’t. Because it’s a vote loser. And if a person can milk the system they will. Taking the piss it may well be but it’s the system that needs a radical shakeup.
I'm no fan of Blair but the benefit shambles was in place a long time before he took office. And speaking as someone who has traditionally voted Conservative the present government's borrowing far exceeds even the most left wing Labour governments of the past.
Think they are trying to make a fairer system...trying to get just one payment to people...instead of the 3/4 even 5 different
payments people can claim...that's what makes it open to false claims...
Garnering votes is a left thing...in fact Tories do the opposite...they told/tell the Public...we WILL make cutbacks...and
keep on till we're out of the mire Labour left us in.....that's not a vote winner in fact the opposite...yet they still piss an election...
The public get it now,know what needs to be done,despite what our media would have you believe..
Was a boomtime for benefits payouts under Blair.....went from a fallback system to a life style choice under that government..
Not just for the "Working Classes" either....targeted the "Middles" with it as well...allowing extra child benefits,for couples
with joint incomes of 70 thousand or so....covered all bases Blair....Rich ...Media....you name it.....Banks questioned he's
use of credit cards....so he fucked off sharpish....guy was a toerag as far as this country was concerned...
We're going right of topic....
....but love a political debate...any debate come to that...
Absolutely no fun if we all agree...