andyginbrasil wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:32 am I never thought that Declan was worth £105 million, but that was what Sullivan wanted Arsenal paid for him.
What I did find impressive was the Man City approach, they put in a decent bid and a fair valuation, it got refused so they moved on. Simple and decisive.
How many times have you heard over the years that West Ham have put in a derisory bid for a player and we were left empty handed ?
Maguire....45 million, Barnes 35 million, JWP 40 million, these were their clubs valuations of the players, touted about long before we put in a bid. FFS Declan s price was banded about 18 months ago, That's what Arsenal paid for him.
If you think the valuation is too high look somewhere else for fucks sake, stop trying to look like a modern day Del Boy and get some fucker in who can do the job you want.without having to insult other clubs.
If you want to bring in players who have played in supposedly the best league in the world and for their sins are classed as English expect to pay a premium.
And my take is, Moyes wants him, our chairman doesn’t puts in a derisory offer to say to Moyes I tried.palerider wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:19 amMy take on it....
We've signed nobody. The season is two weeks away and there's a good chance we'll have the same start to it as last year because of Moyes and the lack of new blood. If he wants JWP just offer a sensible fee as he'll need at least that time to gel with the squad. It's all very well playing hardball but this should have been done weeks ago. We're getting desperate.
And the fact JWP is included in today's Saints squad against AZ proves they're not just rolling over. There was a suggestion that him being left out against Bournemouth the other day was a 'sign'.
So in a roundabout answer to your question, no, not 50m of course but 27m plus 3m add ons would to me have been a good starting place and should have been offered as soon as the window opened. We knew Rice was leaving.
On that we're agreed.Towie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:06 pmAnd my take is, Moyes wants him, our chairman doesn’t puts in a derisory offer to say to Moyes I tried.palerider wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:19 am
My take on it....
We've signed nobody. The season is two weeks away and there's a good chance we'll have the same start to it as last year because of Moyes and the lack of new blood. If he wants JWP just offer a sensible fee as he'll need at least that time to gel with the squad. It's all very well playing hardball but this should have been done weeks ago. We're getting desperate.
And the fact JWP is included in today's Saints squad against AZ proves they're not just rolling over. There was a suggestion that him being left out against Bournemouth the other day was a 'sign'.
So in a roundabout answer to your question, no, not 50m of course but 27m plus 3m add ons would to me have been a good starting place and should have been offered as soon as the window opened. We knew Rice was leaving.
This is what you get when you have a cunt who wants tried and tested PL players, over a Technical director trying to bring in identified targets which if he successfully does, a cunt manager who won’t play them.
It a complete mess, which can only be solved with the sacking of Mcbollocks.
If Moyes wants to sign him, then it should be a given he'll be afforded opportunities. If he's being foisted upon Moyes when he doesn't actually want him, then he shouldn't be coming here to begin with.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:18 pm Of course no one should be guaranteed pitch time. However any potential recruit is entitled to ask about his pwn personal development. The obvious question being “will I be part of the first team selection pool.. Also not unreasonable to ask what the manager’s plans are for bringing him through into the first team. If a kid feels the only opps he’ll get are in domestic cup games or dead euro group stage fixtures he’s entitled to tell us to do one
But I doubt if he’s demanded anything. Probably just more click bait rumour creation to drive up viewer figures.
Exactly. Which is where we started I believe.FlatCapDave wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:55 pmIf Moyes wants to sign him, then it should be a given he'll be afforded opportunities. If he's being foisted upon Moyes when he doesn't actually want him, then he shouldn't be coming here to begin with.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:18 pm Of course no one should be guaranteed pitch time. However any potential recruit is entitled to ask about his pwn personal development. The obvious question being “will I be part of the first team selection pool.. Also not unreasonable to ask what the manager’s plans are for bringing him through into the first team. If a kid feels the only opps he’ll get are in domestic cup games or dead euro group stage fixtures he’s entitled to tell us to do one
But I doubt if he’s demanded anything. Probably just more click bait rumour creation to drive up viewer figures.
I wish someone would knock that scotch cunt out.
