Is West Hams small club mentality getting worse?

[Ibbyham]

The 9898 attention trolley man, you are WRONG, Your rule is Number 1 (I am foolish and wrong), Rule number 2 (If i am NOT foolish and wrong, please refer to rule number 1) Hope that help.

West Ham is BIGGER than Spurs,, Arsenal, Leicester, Wolves and Everton

Fantastic season so far and we are 5 points better than last season and we are keeping our feet on ground. First teamer will rest this week as youngsters and fringe players will play against Dinamo Zagreb so we can PERFORM BETTER against Burnley.

We are 4th in Premier League (probably my prediction to finish 6th by end of play season)
We are in last 16 of Europa Cup
We are in Quarter-Final in Carabao League Cup
We are in FA Cup 3 Round
We are MASSIVE, MASSIVE, MASSIVE club.
We fans are PASSIONATE than Spurs, Arsenal and even Chelsea.

All the above, I am CORRECT.

FOR 9898 - READ MY RULE DOWN PLEASE SIR!

H & G Sir!

[Clayton]

There’s not a West Ham fan alive that doesn’t genuinely believe the bubble will burst at some point .

Our sense of humour is what keeps the fan base going ….
that’s why we are massive

Cheer up and make the most of it you Cunt cos it won’t last forever .

Your fishing expeditions are getting more like a bleak bash every day .

And they all reckon I’m a misog

What do you mean it will not last for ever ?

[Whiskyman]

Small club fan reply. I guarantee if I go on the Barnet club forum I would see a similar comment but definitely wouldn't see it on a Spurs, Leicester or Aston Villa forum.

A factual reply. I’m not shouting from the rooftops thinking we’ve won the quadruple, I’m just saying we’re doing much better than normal. We’ve been consistent-ish for 18 months now, we’re used to the wheels falling off so we’re keeping our feet on the ground.
I think you’ll find Arsenal, Spurs and Man Utd fans have all been having meltdowns these last couple of years coz they think it’s their god given right to be in the top 4. You might call that big club mentality, and maybe you’re right, but I wouldn’t swap with any of them

Putting it another way Jay what we are doing is improving. Improvement is how a coach's performance should be assessed isn't it ? We have improved under Moyes which in my book means he has been a success.

[JayK]

A factual reply. I’m not shouting from the rooftops thinking we’ve won the quadruple, I’m just saying we’re doing much better than normal. We’ve been consistent-ish for 18 months now, we’re used to the wheels falling off so we’re keeping our feet on the ground.
I think you’ll find Arsenal, Spurs and Man Utd fans have all been having meltdowns these last couple of years coz they think it’s their god given right to be in the top 4. You might call that big club mentality, and maybe you’re right, but I wouldn’t swap with any of them

Putting it another way Jay what we are doing is improving. Improvement is how a coach's performance should be assessed isn't it ? We have improved under Moyes which in my book means he has been a success.

I wouldn’t argue with that

[Ibbyham]

Chelsea won the league under the king of boring wins - Mourinho and then replaced him with Conte - another defensive merchant - who is now, incidentally, at Spurs

Now your club are small-time but what about Chelsea aswell?

Mourinho was sacked by Chelsea, wasn't he?

And he got the sacked from Spuds, WASN'T HE????

H & G

[Ibbyham]

A factual reply. I’m not shouting from the rooftops thinking we’ve won the quadruple, I’m just saying we’re doing much better than normal. We’ve been consistent-ish for 18 months now, we’re used to the wheels falling off so we’re keeping our feet on the ground.
I think you’ll find Arsenal, Spurs and Man Utd fans have all been having meltdowns these last couple of years coz they think it’s their god given right to be in the top 4. You might call that big club mentality, and maybe you’re right, but I wouldn’t swap with any of them

Putting it another way Jay what we are doing is improving. Improvement is how a coach's performance should be assessed isn't it ? We have improved under Moyes which in my book means he has been a success.

Totally agreed as not only the incoming players to try to improve the club like Pellegrini did, but Moyes brought in excellent training coaches in Nevin and Nolan whom the latter I was fearing worst but he has done excellent and brought players to move up their level. New fitness coaches, recruitments head of staff and scouts which are bought mainly from Man City so our FOUNDATION now is looking more healthy and stronger than it was in 2015 when Bilic came, after the first season, went downhill due to poor training coaches, etc.

The only negative person here is 9898 that why he is a numbers that always negative.

[andyginbrasil]

There’s not a West Ham fan alive that doesn’t genuinely believe the bubble will burst at some point .

Our sense of humour is what keeps the fan base going ….
that’s why we are massive

Cheer up and make the most of it you Cunt cos it won’t last forever .

Your fishing expeditions are getting more like a bleak bash every day .

And they all reckon I’m a misog

Was thinking the same thing the other day, one thing that has always been one of the strengths of our supporters is the banter, and it keeps coming through good and bad times.
Long may it continue

[terrya1965]

We have always had it and it seems to be getting worse.

Very good result on Saturday but the performance was poor and the way we set up, negative and scared, would not have been accepted by fans of teams such as Spurs, Arsenal or even Leicester and Aston Villa. Our fans take it as we are desperate for a sense of achievement, but, in doing so we have surrendered our beliefs and are acting like a Rochdale fan against Man City.

We are doing ok to this point in December, but fans act like we have won the Pl, World cup and CL. Facts are Spurs will go above us when they win there game in hand but their fans are very, very unhappy. Arsenal are 4 points behind and their fans are unhappy. Wolves 6 points behind but their fans are not shouting from the rooftops. Brighton are only 7 points behind but their fans are booing the team off.

We accept playing for set pieces (Burnley-esque) and turn a blind eye to negative management. Would any other team in the top 14 do the same? When did fans accept a Moyes-esque manager, let alone Moyes himself, as manager? Would these same fans not be criticising him and his style of management if he was at another club?

If we beat a team historically better than us, top 6 (Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs , Arsenal), even if it is down to luck, we genuinely act like we've won the PL, and it';s getting worse. Very small time.

Is it fair to say that Moyes is the perfect small time manager for a small time club? Is he dragging us down or are fans responsible for the growing problem? Would any top 10 club emply Moyes? We all know the answer is no.

Answer this question.

Taking everything into consideration eg ownership,finances, fighting relegation...DO YOU THINK THAT WEST HAM HAVE OVER ACHIEVED IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS?

I think if you polled all other 19 PL Club's fans,I think,well I know,it would be in the high 90's,percentage wise...Maybe 98%?The other 2% who voted,would be either idiots, wind up merchants or somebody who knows nothing about football...I take it,you'll be in that 2%. category?

[Ibbyham]

We have always had it and it seems to be getting worse.

Very good result on Saturday but the performance was poor and the way we set up, negative and scared, would not have been accepted by fans of teams such as Spurs, Arsenal or even Leicester and Aston Villa. Our fans take it as we are desperate for a sense of achievement, but, in doing so we have surrendered our beliefs and are acting like a Rochdale fan against Man City.

We are doing ok to this point in December, but fans act like we have won the Pl, World cup and CL. Facts are Spurs will go above us when they win there game in hand but their fans are very, very unhappy. Arsenal are 4 points behind and their fans are unhappy. Wolves 6 points behind but their fans are not shouting from the rooftops. Brighton are only 7 points behind but their fans are booing the team off.

We accept playing for set pieces (Burnley-esque) and turn a blind eye to negative management. Would any other team in the top 14 do the same? When did fans accept a Moyes-esque manager, let alone Moyes himself, as manager? Would these same fans not be criticising him and his style of management if he was at another club?

If we beat a team historically better than us, top 6 (Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs , Arsenal), even if it is down to luck, we genuinely act like we've won the PL, and it';s getting worse. Very small time.

Is it fair to say that Moyes is the perfect small time manager for a small time club? Is he dragging us down or are fans responsible for the growing problem? Would any top 10 club emply Moyes? We all know the answer is no.

Answer this question.

Taking everything into consideration eg ownership,finances, fighting relegation...DO YOU THINK THAT WEST HAM HAVE OVER ACHIEVED IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS?

I think if you polled all other 19 PL Club's fans,I think,well I know,it would be in the high 90's,percentage wise...Maybe 98%?The other 2% who voted,would be either idiots, wind up merchants or somebody who knows nothing about football...I take it,you'll be in that 2%. category?

Well said Tezza, 9898 is ALWAYS in that 2% as you quoted.

[terrya1965]

We have always had it and it seems to be getting worse.

Very good result on Saturday but the performance was poor and the way we set up, negative and scared, would not have been accepted by fans of teams such as Spurs, Arsenal or even Leicester and Aston Villa. Our fans take it as we are desperate for a sense of achievement, but, in doing so we have surrendered our beliefs and are acting like a Rochdale fan against Man City.

We are doing ok to this point in December, but fans act like we have won the Pl, World cup and CL. Facts are Spurs will go above us when they win there game in hand but their fans are very, very unhappy. Arsenal are 4 points behind and their fans are unhappy. Wolves 6 points behind but their fans are not shouting from the rooftops. Brighton are only 7 points behind but their fans are booing the team off.

We accept playing for set pieces (Burnley-esque) and turn a blind eye to negative management. Would any other team in the top 14 do the same? When did fans accept a Moyes-esque manager, let alone Moyes himself, as manager? Would these same fans not be criticising him and his style of management if he was at another club?

If we beat a team historically better than us, top 6 (Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs , Arsenal), even if it is down to luck, we genuinely act like we've won the PL, and it';s getting worse. Very small time.

Is it fair to say that Moyes is the perfect small time manager for a small time club? Is he dragging us down or are fans responsible for the growing problem? Would any top 10 club emply Moyes? We all know the answer is no.

Can you stick this one on KUMB..I am so looking forward to the hundred's of replies