Euro Squad decided

[mkhammer]

That was my point Whisky. Out of 8 English managers in the Premier League, 3 were relegated, the highest place finish was 11th and the average goal difference was -18. Not so much an indictment of the lack of English talent more an empirical fact I fear!

And you could add that in the majority, if not all, the cases they do tend to have the same approach towards grinding out results. Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Scott Parker, Chris Wilder, are four who immediately come to mind as being from the Allardyce school of respecting the point.

Disagree on the Scott Parker BFS reference ..Scotts problem was being to attack minded,often saw Fulham getting after
games,then being pulled apart on the counter....
Losing Cairney(Captain) in MF was huge for them...him and Reed looked a great pairing....
Be like if we had struggling season and lost Declan...
I think he'll be a good Manager one day

[Newmarket]

Unless your Portuguese of course . Yeah I know , rarely doesn’t mean never

I think we may see a lot of it at this Euros though , especially as there’s a home and away element to most of the games this time .

When it comes to boring their way to the trophy no one comes close to the Greek team that won it a few years back.

Very true . And , dare I say it , the Czech’s a few years earlier were not too exciting either.

[Whiskyman]

And you could add that in the majority, if not all, the cases they do tend to have the same approach towards grinding out results. Steve Bruce, Sean Dyche, Scott Parker, Chris Wilder, are four who immediately come to mind as being from the Allardyce school of respecting the point.

Disagree on the Scott Parker BFS reference ..Scotts problem was being to attack minded,often saw Fulham getting after
games,then being pulled apart on the counter....
Losing Cairney(Captain) in MF was huge for them...him and Reed looked a great pairing....
Be like if we had struggling season and lost Declan...
I think he'll be a good Manager one day

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate. 27 goals scored from 38 games doesn'r suggest an attack minded team to me. He may be a good manager one day. But some would say Allardyce is a good manager in particular situations. Let's be honest, he did a decent job for us. Might not have been the best football but he did what he was employed to do. One thing Fulham did well imo was passing the ball sideways and getting nowhere. Great if you're holding on to a hard earned lead but not too clever if you need a goal to salvage a point.

For me Parker made too many mistakes. He wasn't responsible for their first relegation as it was a team he inherited. But he should have seen they weren't good enough to survive and changed the side well before he eventually did. And 7 , yes SEVEN, loan signings ? WTF is that all about. They'll all be off and so he'll have to start again. Assuming he's given the chance to do it of course. But I'm guessing if he was going to be fired it would have already happened so maybe we'll get the chance to see what he can do next season.

[mkhammer]

Disagree on the Scott Parker BFS reference ..Scotts problem was being to attack minded,often saw Fulham getting after
games,then being pulled apart on the counter....
Losing Cairney(Captain) in MF was huge for them...him and Reed looked a great pairing....
Be like if we had struggling season and lost Declan...
I think he'll be a good Manager one day

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate. 27 goals scored from 38 games doesn'r suggest an attack minded team to me. He may be a good manager one day. But some would say Allardyce is a good manager in particular situations. Let's be honest, he did a decent job for us. Might not have been the best football but he did what he was employed to do. One thing Fulham did well imo was passing the ball sideways and getting nowhere. Great if you're holding on to a hard earned lead but not too clever if you need a goal to salvage a point.

For me Parker made too many mistakes. He wasn't responsible for their first relegation as it was a team he inherited. But he should have seen they weren't good enough to survive and changed the side well before he eventually did. And 7 , yes SEVEN, loan signings ? WTF is that all about. They'll all be off and so he'll have to start again. Assuming he's given the chance to do it of course. But I'm guessing if he was going to be fired it would have already happened so maybe we'll get the chance to see what he can do next season.

I don't watch a huge amount of non West Ham footie...more this year than usual,bloody lockdown shit I spose,
Having fun bets on outcomes...caught Fulham a few times..played nice stuff at times,great MF which got messed up,
I really rate Cairney...they seemed to start firing then the wheels fell off again,think they created, don't quote me, as many chances
as a lot of teams above them...Mitrovic never seemed to be playing when I watched,Bencher most of season I think,
surprised with that,decent player,hindsight I know but might have banged a few more in for them.

Yeah your right tho...be interesting see what happens and where Parker ends up...same as Gerard,who I'd be happy
to have at our place at some point,not gonna happen tho,if we 'd had a shit season might have been a chance,he'll need
a couple years somewhere,before he goes to Red Scouse..Soton maybe,somewhere like that..

[Towie]

As I’ve stated before Fulham build up play is good to watch, defensively he made them more solid. The reason they are relegated is they couldn’t score in a brothel.

Their shots to conversion ratio was worse in the PL but the amount of shots was midway up the league.

I actually think their mistake was not playing to the strengths of Mitrovic a recognised goal scorer, they should have gone more direct and plenty of crosses.

As for the 7 loan signings, I’m guessing they took a different approach to their last relegation where they spent £100m. Once bitten twice shy is the saying.

[BlackDiamond]

Disagree on the Scott Parker BFS reference ..Scotts problem was being to attack minded,often saw Fulham getting after
games,then being pulled apart on the counter....
Losing Cairney(Captain) in MF was huge for them...him and Reed looked a great pairing....
Be like if we had struggling season and lost Declan...
I think he'll be a good Manager one day

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate. 27 goals scored from 38 games doesn'r suggest an attack minded team to me. He may be a good manager one day. But some would say Allardyce is a good manager in particular situations. Let's be honest, he did a decent job for us. Might not have been the best football but he did what he was employed to do. One thing Fulham did well imo was passing the ball sideways and getting nowhere. Great if you're holding on to a hard earned lead but not too clever if you need a goal to salvage a point.

For me Parker made too many mistakes. He wasn't responsible for their first relegation as it was a team he inherited. But he should have seen they weren't good enough to survive and changed the side well before he eventually did. And 7 , yes SEVEN, loan signings ? WTF is that all about. They'll all be off and so he'll have to start again. Assuming he's given the chance to do it of course. But I'm guessing if he was going to be fired it would have already happened so maybe we'll get the chance to see what he can do next season.

Well what we could say without challenge, is Scott had 38 games to get Fulham going and he didn't. And that's not a good look.But people gain experience and have the capacity to improve, so let's wish him well.

Conversely the Euro's is all about the players, as the manager can only ever have a little influence, due to how little time they get to work with the players. Plus unlike club football the available personnel are dictatated by nationality and not influenced by how wealthy an owner is.

This also creates a bit of fun and intrigue because teams are not overloaded with specialists because you use what you got available. No buyins and no swaps allowed.
Scotland as an example simply use two left backs because they are two of their best players.

It's fashionable to denigrate international tournaments in comparision to club football but the comparisons are pretty weak. They are not the same animal. Granted they look the same and but the whole point is, they ain't.

[Whiskyman]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate. 27 goals scored from 38 games doesn'r suggest an attack minded team to me. He may be a good manager one day. But some would say Allardyce is a good manager in particular situations. Let's be honest, he did a decent job for us. Might not have been the best football but he did what he was employed to do. One thing Fulham did well imo was passing the ball sideways and getting nowhere. Great if you're holding on to a hard earned lead but not too clever if you need a goal to salvage a point.

For me Parker made too many mistakes. He wasn't responsible for their first relegation as it was a team he inherited. But he should have seen they weren't good enough to survive and changed the side well before he eventually did. And 7 , yes SEVEN, loan signings ? WTF is that all about. They'll all be off and so he'll have to start again. Assuming he's given the chance to do it of course. But I'm guessing if he was going to be fired it would have already happened so maybe we'll get the chance to see what he can do next season.

I don't watch a huge amount of non West Ham footie...more this year than usual,bloody lockdown shit I spose,
Having fun bets on outcomes...caught Fulham a few times..played nice stuff at times,great MF which got messed up,
I really rate Cairney...they seemed to start firing then the wheels fell off again,think they created, don't quote me, as many chances
as a lot of teams above them...Mitrovic never seemed to be playing when I watched,Bencher most of season I think,
surprised with that,decent player,hindsight I know but might have banged a few more in for them.

Yeah your right tho...be interesting see what happens and where Parker ends up...same as Gerard,who I'd be happy
to have at our place at some point,not gonna happen tho,if we 'd had a shit season might have been a chance,he'll need
a couple years somewhere,before he goes to Red Scouse..Soton maybe,somewhere like that..

So Gerrard won the league with Rangers. Big fucking deal, NOT, imo. Let's be honest mate , you manage Rangers, I manage Celtic, or the other way round, one of us wins the league. Does that make us good managers ? No, of course not.

Gerrard might prove to be a decent manager in time but he needs to prove himself in proper football first.

[BlackDiamond]

Gareth Southgate might not be anyones preference as England manager and I don't think that needs explaining. If it does need explaining then the clarification wouldn't be understood by the inquirer.

That's enough about the head coach, let's guess his preferred team.

GK: Pickford
RB: Walker
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Shaw
CDM: Rice
LCM: Henderson
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

Can we improve on that your wondering. And I think we can, unless everyone is happy for Rice and Henderson to play square balls and then pass back to Pickford to launch. And where are those Chelsea fullbacks ? strewth

And It only takes a shake of a lambs tail to fix that and voila

GK: Pickford
RB: James
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Chillwell
CDM: Rice
LCM: Foden
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

and where's Markus Rashford your thinking - he's fit and available...it's not as if he's watching ITV mid-afternoon repeats of Morse...

[JayK]

Gareth Southgate might not be anyones preference as England manager and I don't think that needs explaining. If it does need explaining then the clarification wouldn't be understood by the inquirer.

That's enough about the head coach, let's guess his preferred team.

GK: Pickford
RB: Walker
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Shaw
CDM: Rice
LCM: Henderson
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

Can we improve on that your wondering. And I think we can, unless everyone is happy for Rice and Henderson to play square balls and then pass back to Pickford to launch. And where are those Chelsea fullbacks ? strewth

And It only takes a shake of a lambs tail to fix that and voila

GK: Pickford
RB: James
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Chillwell
CDM: Rice
LCM: Foden
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

and where's Markus Rashford your thinking - he's fit and available...it's not as if he's watching ITV mid-afternoon repeats of Morse...

Drop sterling for foden or Henderson depending on your chosen select 11 and I would preference your 2nd selection with winning full backs.

[Dwayne Pipes]

Gareth Southgate might not be anyones preference as England manager and I don't think that needs explaining. If it does need explaining then the clarification wouldn't be understood by the inquirer.

That's enough about the head coach, let's guess his preferred team.

GK: Pickford
RB: Walker
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Shaw
CDM: Rice
LCM: Henderson
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

Can we improve on that your wondering. And I think we can, unless everyone is happy for Rice and Henderson to play square balls and then pass back to Pickford to launch. And where are those Chelsea fullbacks ? strewth

And It only takes a shake of a lambs tail to fix that and voila

GK: Pickford
RB: James
CB: Stones
CB: ANO/Maguire
LB: Chillwell
CDM: Rice
LCM: Foden
RCM: Mount
LW: Grealish
ST: Kane
RW: Sterling

and where's Markus Rashford your thinking - he's fit and available...it's not as if he's watching ITV mid-afternoon repeats of Morse...

Sorting out the packed lunches for the lads

What a guy!!