Coronavirus

[mkhammer]

Social distancing.....if we told people 1 metre which is prob enough..they'd hold hands etc,
feel and be tempted to touch...maybe the odd handshake....we have to be extreme a bit to make
people aware and acknowledge it...and drum it in.

A lot of what we've done maybe wasn't necessary....we just don't know......If this Government thought it
was needed.....knowing full well it would totally fuck the economy up for a year or two....
and quite poss cause them a heap of shit electorially ..I'll go with it..

No MP wants this ...none anywhere, any side...sorry they just don't...no one gains...
Labour and other Bods will start the Political gain crap tho...it's happening now.
There's members of the public who are quite enjoying being at home on 80% tho.

Beggars believe how a lot of people think our press and media..sway towards the Tory Party...
it's just a constant pounding...not questioning as you should do ,a relentless pursuit of digging
and fault finding...this at the moment(Cummings) is beyond diabolical...pathetic..

Think Boris and our Government have done everything they possibly can to get us thru this..
As a Tory...didn't want Johnson as leader/PM...but he's won me over...very much so...

[Dwayne Pipes]

I keep banging on about this but it’s mainly people’s personal fucking hygiene there are some filthy cunts about.
I dare you to walk down fucking Green Street.
Saw some cunt in Plaistow the other day sneeze in his fucking hands and serve some woman red peppers.

[BlackDiamond]

Foreign correspondents from Italy to Australia are baffled the UK has a leader with such obvious ineptitude.

Max Hastings (his former boss) wrote a piece, detailing his character defects and lack of suitability for public office last autumn. Not a hatchet job,just an honest appraisal of a bluffer,serial liar and a selfish egotist.

It's difficult to look at Johnson and find any value at all. In some ways,that makes him historically unique.

And Max Hastings is a long long way from being part of some loony left wing conspiracy. I would describe him as a right wing Thatcherite.

When history is written I reckon 100 years from now political students will see the last election as the final nail in Britain's coffin. We elected Johnson, not because he was any fucking good, but because the alternative was , incredibly, even worse.

I just hope when I eventually fall off my perch I can leave enough in my will to enable my grandchidren to fuck off and find somewhere to live and work where ability, and not being connected, gets people the top jobs.

As for Johnson he is an opportunist. He saw an opportunity for himself when the Brexit referendum was announced and, just as Tony Blair did some years before, completely changed his views for the sake of personal opportunity.

I'm personally sorry, as a conservative, that he didn't become a high profile virus victim when he caught it. Although tbh I suspect he probably wasn't as "ill" as was reported. The man is a cunt who would undoubtedly see a story about him bravely surviving the nasty killer virus as a potential way to raise his profile.

Johnson,current PM,said his own conclusion was Dominic Cummings acted reasonably,legally and with integrity and care for his family and for others.

The problem with that statement is,it's illogical to make that conclusion.

It was not legal to drive that distance from London.It was not reasonable to suggest he didn't understand that.
And you do not display integrity by putting personal motivation ahead of acting honestly.

I don't know whether Johnson is obtuse or actually lacking the capacity to process,what certain words actually mean.

It's all quite ridiculous and very 2020

[Dwayne Pipes]

Social distancing is a waste of time as far as I can see.
I was in the supermarket on Saturday and a woman wearing a T-shirt that said 'please keep 2 metres apart' passed within a foot of me. She wasn't the only one. All the aisles had arrows, that every other person ignored.
Even waiting in the car park was hazardous. It was warm so rolled the window down, and 3 cunts still had to filter right past my car.
One was a great big fat tart who barely fit. She had shorts on, and if there was a cellulite world championship she'd be a contender. Lumpier than a rice pudding.
And because of this farcical nonsense I still can't play snooker for another 2 months.

Did you pull though ?

[Whiskyman]

I keep banging on about this but it’s mainly people’s personal fucking hygiene there are some filthy cunts about.
I dare you to walk down fucking Green Street.
Saw some cunt in Plaistow the other day sneeze in his fucking hands and serve some woman red peppers.

Couldn't agree more with that. Even before the virus was even heard of I remember once having to go into the bogs inside Tescos to take a leak. Some dirty old cut, looked to be in his 70s, came out of one of the traps and walked straight out without even washing his hands, the dirty old cunt.

I actually complained to one of Tescos people, basically saying I didn't want that filthy piece of shit touching anything I mught buy, but was told Soory, there's nothing we can do about it. Which sadly was right I guess.

[Whiskyman]

Beggars believe how a lot of people think our press and media..sway towards the Tory Party...
it's just a constant pounding...not questioning as you should do ,a relentless pursuit of digging
and fault finding...this at the moment(Cummings) is beyond diabolical...pathetic..

The written media in the UK, with two notable exceptions, are predominantly pro Conservative. Have been for pretty much all time apart from when the Sun famously switched to Blair. So when the Tory press pound the government they should fucking well listen.

The reason I've nearly always voted Tory is because , to me, conservatism means the freedom to make, in the main, your own choices and be self reliant. But like a lot of people in this country I resent being told what to do by those in government who then proceed to do the exact opposite of what they expect the rest of us to do.

Of course Johnson should sack Cummings. The man is a senior government advisor and he has blatantly broken the rules his bosses have been telling us to keep. Indeed in certain cases people have been fined for disobeying them. Imo that is quite outrageous and it beggars belief the bloke is still in his job. Not just because je has broken his own rules but also because, by doing so, he has shown himself to be a stupid cunt, incapable of even coming up with a decent reason and, imo, showing he is not worthy of holding a position of influence.

Very similar to the infamous "family values" preaching of the last days of the Major government when the PM was apparently slipping one to Edwina Currie. As a conservative I am very fearful that this fucking shower will be totally shafted during the Brexit negotiations and that, as a result, untold damage to the economy will result in the long term. And Labour supporters needn't feel smug either. It was the stupidity of their party membership that gave the British people the unholy alternative of electing as Prime Minister a bumbling buffoon or Comrade Corbyn who seemed to have forgotten that Communism was finally discredited as a viable form of government over 30 years ago.

[mkhammer]

Beggars believe how a lot of people think our press and media..sway towards the Tory Party...
it's just a constant pounding...not questioning as you should do ,a relentless pursuit of digging
and fault finding...this at the moment(Cummings) is beyond diabolical...pathetic..

The written media in the UK, with two notable exceptions, are predominantly pro Conservative. Have been for pretty much all time apart from when the Sun famously switched to Blair. So when the Tory press pound the government they should fucking well listen.

The reason I've nearly always voted Tory is because , to me, conservatism means the freedom to make, in the main, your own choices and be self reliant. But like a lot of people in this country I resent being told what to do by those in government who then proceed to do the exact opposite of what they expect the rest of us to do.

Of course Johnson should sack Cummings. The man is a senior government advisor and he has blatantly broken the rules his bosses have been telling us to keep. Indeed in certain cases people have been fined for disobeying them. Imo that is quite outrageous and it beggars belief the bloke is still in his job. Not just because je has broken his own rules but also because, by doing so, he has shown himself to be a stupid cunt, incapable of even coming up with a decent reason and, imo, showing he is not worthy of holding a position of influence.

Very similar to the infamous "family values" preaching of the last days of the Major government when the PM was apparently slipping one to Edwina Currie. As a conservative I am very fearful that this fucking shower will be totally shafted during the Brexit negotiations and that, as a result, untold damage to the economy will result in the long term. And Labour supporters needn't feel smug either. It was the stupidity of their party membership that gave the British people the unholy alternative of electing as Prime Minister a bumbling buffoon or Comrade Corbyn who seemed to have forgotten that Communism was finally discredited as a viable form of government over 30 years ago.

Looks like we see the present Tory Mob differently Whisky...but that's politics....never minded
opposing views...
I would support the Tories whoever was the leader...the ideology behind it works...the other way,
whatever that is now(left of centre socialism)...Doesn't/Didn't..

People think The Times is Tory for instance...I get it and it Aint...plenty of Boris the Buffoon
cartoons and articles having a pop at them...it's pretty middle ground....
Not one in support of Cummings...but then again positive headlines don't sell papers...negativity
and shock value does....thats the prob with them.
If you had 30 Press Members at a press call....they would surely have a mixed view/opinion of
something but they all ask exactly the same fault finding questions,trying to trip and catch out.

Personally don't like what he did...but thats just looking in from the outside like we all are...
prob most of us would have done the same thing in his circumstances.....Sorry but when it comes
to your family...certain rules and regulations go out the window.....and in this case they weren't
even rules...just guidelines and advices...
It's not the one rule thing...it's about opportunity ....you have the opportunity to get your family
to cottage in your parents grounds...with care for your little one if it's needed a hundred yards away,
most of us would take that.

Fully expecting a Tory Bashing...it's nothing new.....TBH find this Press/Media bashing unimportant
now....the last Election proved they don't represent or sway public opinion anymore...those days
are gone for them.

I think Possibly Boris may have let Cummings go......but with all this over the top pressuring
he may not be want to be seen to back down...
Elections a way of as well...if had been next year...he'd prob have been gone by now...

Interesting what happens....a weeks a long time in politics....this time next week the Press
would have found another bone...

[Oziron]

Think Boris and our Government have done everything they possibly can to get us thru this..
As a Tory...didn't want Johnson as leader/PM...but he's won me over...very much so...

Fucking hell.....If you think Boris & Co have done a good job during this crisis then you are very easily pleased. Imho they have seriously dropped the ball:

Should have locked down 3 weeks earlier than they did
No contact tracing after it all got too difficult
Lack of PPEs for front line staff -Refusal to join EU PPE supply scheme and then failing to procure enough PPE themselves.
Failure to quarantine or monitor any of the incoming people from overseas.
Failure to prevent incoming flights from China and other hot spots
Mixed messages re lockdown....'Stay Alert'.....cunts

....and the list goes on. When countries like Greece and Turkey are doing a better job at controlling the virus then surely you can see that there might be issues...

(I try and stay out of UK political debates cos i don't live there but FFS I can't believe that you seriously think that the UK has done a good job re covid-19...!!)

[BlackDiamond]

Think Boris and our Government have done everything they possibly can to get us thru this..
As a Tory...didn't want Johnson as leader/PM...but he's won me over...very much so...

Fucking hell.....If you think Boris & Co have done a good job during this crisis then you are very easily pleased. Imho they have seriously dropped the ball:

Should have locked down 3 weeks earlier than they did
No contact tracing after it all got too difficult
Lack of PPEs for front line staff -Refusal to join EU PPE supply scheme and then failing to procure enough PPE themselves.
Failure to quarantine or monitor any of the incoming people from overseas.
Failure to prevent incoming flights from China and other hot spots
Mixed messages re lockdown....'Stay Alert'.....cunts

....and the list goes on. When countries like Greece and Turkey are doing a better job at controlling the virus then surely you can see that there might be issues...

(I try and stay out of UK political debates cos i don't live there but FFS I can't believe that you seriously think that the UK has done a good job re covid-19...!!)

Your absolutely accurate. It's interesting that all the foreign press,Germany,Spain,Italy,France and even Greece have remarked how badly the UK government have handled every step of their crisis management.

None of the press coverage concerns UK politics as they have no skin in that game. The majority of the comment suggests the UK will continue to perform badly because of the people who are making the decisions or not making them.

And in that regard they are right. Some people say you deserve the fools you elect but I don't subscribe to that view.

[Whiskyman]

The written media in the UK, with two notable exceptions, are predominantly pro Conservative. Have been for pretty much all time apart from when the Sun famously switched to Blair. So when the Tory press pound the government they should fucking well listen.

The reason I've nearly always voted Tory is because , to me, conservatism means the freedom to make, in the main, your own choices and be self reliant. But like a lot of people in this country I resent being told what to do by those in government who then proceed to do the exact opposite of what they expect the rest of us to do.

Of course Johnson should sack Cummings. The man is a senior government advisor and he has blatantly broken the rules his bosses have been telling us to keep. Indeed in certain cases people have been fined for disobeying them. Imo that is quite outrageous and it beggars belief the bloke is still in his job. Not just because je has broken his own rules but also because, by doing so, he has shown himself to be a stupid cunt, incapable of even coming up with a decent reason and, imo, showing he is not worthy of holding a position of influence.

Very similar to the infamous "family values" preaching of the last days of the Major government when the PM was apparently slipping one to Edwina Currie. As a conservative I am very fearful that this fucking shower will be totally shafted during the Brexit negotiations and that, as a result, untold damage to the economy will result in the long term. And Labour supporters needn't feel smug either. It was the stupidity of their party membership that gave the British people the unholy alternative of electing as Prime Minister a bumbling buffoon or Comrade Corbyn who seemed to have forgotten that Communism was finally discredited as a viable form of government over 30 years ago.

Fully expecting a Tory Bashing...it's nothing new.....TBH find this Press/Media bashing unimportant
now....the last Election proved they don't represent or sway public opinion anymore...those days
are gone for them.

I have attempted to address this particular point. The last election , at least imo, gave us a choice between Johnson as PM or Corbyn. For me that is somewhat similar to being asked would you rather be run over by a 16 wheeler or die more slowly in a cancer ward. The lesser of two very unappealing evils I would say.


Which is the tragedy of British politics today. There was absolutely no decent government in waiting, on either side, at the last election. The choice was voting for the one which would do least damage. Again, only imo of course, we made the right decision---just--- but what a miserable fucking choice.