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Gonzo wrote:The group that monitor castigating reporting is called 'News-Watch' and they reported that the BBCradio reporting was 'Overwhelmingly biased' against brexit in their coverage.

During the six three-hour morning shows from Monday 29 March to Saturday 4 April, Today fielded 124 guests on Article 50 but only eight, 6.5 per cent, were "given the space to make substantive arguments that the future for the UK outside the EU would yield significant benefits".

It also claimed that in the survey period BBC correspondents "displayed what can only be described as a strong common editorial bias against Brexit".



I also believe that about 70 MP's have forwarded a motion to further investigate the future of the BBC if it can't provide non biased reporting. If it's going to continue to receive public money it cant be seen to be taking sides and representing one section of the electorate.
TBH gonzo that was my point and thanks for the clarification.
The BBC is paid for by the public and should only report the news and not have an opinion.
If they want to invite someone to speak on a particular subject which has differing views then both sides of the coin should be represented with equal amount of time to respond.
I think we are at a point where the BBC must be challenged and if they fail to change then withdraw public funding.
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Neville Bartos wrote:Other sources for news and current affairs are available.
Bias like everything else is subjective. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... stent-myth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neville if I want a liberal view I'll check out the guardian and if I want s right wing view the sun.
The point is the public pay for the BBC and their remit is to be unbiased.
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The BBC have a left wing bias.. end of..it's well known...give all their prime spots to presenters
with that Bias,....Derbyshire...cant get much more of a lefty,nice person,got a lot of time for
her,but a lefty nonetheless,and makes no secret of the fact,even in her interviews,and its
wrong,it's publicly funded,and should be independent.

That's why they love Owen Jones Nev,surprised they don't give him his own show TBH'
Beggars believe how anyone calls the BBC right wing.............

ITV are just as bad at times..Susanna Reids battering of the Tories at every opportunity
is a joke.

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deanox wrote:
Gonzo wrote:The group that monitor castigating reporting is called 'News-Watch' and they reported that the BBCradio reporting was 'Overwhelmingly biased' against brexit in their coverage.

During the six three-hour morning shows from Monday 29 March to Saturday 4 April, Today fielded 124 guests on Article 50 but only eight, 6.5 per cent, were "given the space to make substantive arguments that the future for the UK outside the EU would yield significant benefits".

It also claimed that in the survey period BBC correspondents "displayed what can only be described as a strong common editorial bias against Brexit".



I also believe that about 70 MP's have forwarded a motion to further investigate the future of the BBC if it can't provide non biased reporting. If it's going to continue to receive public money it cant be seen to be taking sides and representing one section of the electorate.
TBH gonzo that was my point and thanks for the clarification.
The BBC is paid for by the public and should only report the news and not have an opinion.
If they want to invite someone to speak on a particular subject which has differing views then both sides of the coin should be represented with equal amount of time to respond.
I think we are at a point where the BBC must be challenged and if they fail to change then withdraw public funding.
Well that is exactly it.

It's not preferable for the BBC to be impartial, it's a condition that is set in stone whilst it is the law to demand a licence fee for their service.

They are not allowed to try and wield political influence whilst they are funded by the public purse.

If that's the direction they wish their broadcasting to go then they should really become a commercial station and give people the freedom of choice.

In the run up to the election there was one particular Question Time where the panel had 7 remain advocates and only 1 person who voted for brexit.

Obviously considering that 55% of the electorate voted to leave the EU that was a massive call by their production team. That is also subject to a completely fresh investigation by the watchdog.

Aside from anything else though the very concept of a forced television subscription punishable by law is completely outdated and redundant in the modern world.

In fact if the licence fee did not exist and someone came up with the idea of forced TV subscription it would not even get legislated upon.

If it did somehow get passed the commons and Lords the court of human rights would never allow it.

Go to prison if you don't pay the national broadcaster £100 per year....... Sounds like something out of North Korea.

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A rather well-worn subject that is actually getting a bit boring. So I shan't be be upsetting all you BBC haters with my terribly liberal views more than to say the following.

There is a difference between being biased and not saying what you specifically want to hear. If you are Tommy Robinson, anyone to the left of you is left wing. If you are Corbyn, anyone to the right of you is a fascist. To expect a national broadcaster to reflect your view all the time is simply fucking stupid.

Because people view things through the filter of their own prejudices.

The BBC is not biased. It does, however, reflect the society from which its staff are drawn. There are as many right wingers as there are left wingers there, because we live in a free fucking society not stalinist Russia or China, and whether you get a job there or not does NOT depend on your political opinions. It depends on your skills. You know, just like any other fucking employer. So the likelihood of you being a lefty and employed by the BBC is exactly the same as the likelihood of being a lefty and working for a newspaper or a fucking car factory.

Does anyone seriously think that on the job application they ask you for your political affiliations?

Really, its a fucking embarrassing line of debate.

If anyone thinks there is some super-human mister big left wing super-villain at the top of the BBC insisting it only employs sellers of the Socialist Worker, you need to have a fucking lie down.
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frogiron wrote:A rather well-worn subject that is actually getting a bit boring. So I shan't be be upsetting all you BBC haters with my terribly liberal views more than to say the following.

There is a difference between being biased and not saying what you specifically want to hear. If you are Tommy Robinson, anyone to the left of you is left wing. If you are Corbyn, anyone to the right of you is a fascist. To expect a national broadcaster to reflect your view all the time is simply fucking stupid.

Because people view things through the filter of their own prejudices.

The BBC is not biased. It does, however, reflect the society from which its staff are drawn. There are as many right wingers as there are left wingers there, because we live in a free fucking society not stalinist Russia or China, and whether you get a job there or not does NOT depend on your political opinions. It depends on your skills. You know, just like any other fucking employer. So the likelihood of you being a lefty and employed by the BBC is exactly the same as the likelihood of being a lefty and working for a newspaper or a fucking car factory.

Does anyone seriously think that on the job application they ask you for your political affiliations?

Really, its a fucking embarrassing line of debate.

If anyone thinks there is some super-human mister big left wing super-villain at the top of the BBC insisting it only employs sellers of the Socialist Worker, you need to have a fucking lie down.
Socialist Worker Frog ?

Mais non.

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frogiron wrote:A rather well-worn subject that is actually getting a bit boring. So I shan't be be upsetting all you BBC haters with my terribly liberal views more than to say the following.

There is a difference between being biased and not saying what you specifically want to hear. If you are Tommy Robinson, anyone to the left of you is left wing. If you are Corbyn, anyone to the right of you is a fascist. To expect a national broadcaster to reflect your view all the time is simply fucking stupid.

Because people view things through the filter of their own prejudices.

The BBC is not biased. It does, however, reflect the society from which its staff are drawn. There are as many right wingers as there are left wingers there, because we live in a free fucking society not stalinist Russia or China, and whether you get a job there or not does NOT depend on your political opinions. It depends on your skills. You know, just like any other fucking employer. So the likelihood of you being a lefty and employed by the BBC is exactly the same as the likelihood of being a lefty and working for a newspaper or a fucking car factory.

Does anyone seriously think that on the job application they ask you for your political affiliations?

Really, its a fucking embarrassing line of debate.

If anyone thinks there is some super-human mister big left wing super-villain at the top of the BBC insisting it only employs sellers of the Socialist Worker, you need to have a fucking lie down.
Not expecting the BBC to say what I want to hear,far from it,I want independent reporting
on issues,good or bad from my point of view.
The BBC is run like a vast Majority of our Newspapers..It's all about the Headlines...
Bad negative stuff,will shift more papers than a good positive news story.
So digging the Tories out at every opportunity is easy meat for them,gets people watching
it's not just the BBC,it's right across our Media.
They are way better than they used to be granted,but at the moment...well...

Thing is you expect it from various other channels/papers,if you read and listen enough
you get to understand their bias.

But what I am saying is the BBC at all cost's must stay neutral,if they don't want to be then
stop taking money from the public.

Don't know what it's like now TBH,but they used to have a very militant trade union,but
even that baffled me,how does that infiltrate to the broadcasting and reporting side of things
it shouldn't but somehow it does.

Getting pissed of with all this Left and Right stuff TBH,
But I think you're mistaken if you think the BBC doesn't have any socialist leanings.

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Neville Bartos wrote:Other sources for news and current affairs are available.
Bias like everything else is subjective. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... stent-myth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Only you Nevski would suggest the BBC are right wing, quoting the ever so noble Guardian as well. Top marks yet again for why you are indeed in the vast minority in this country, thank god!

What are your thoughts on the football fans marching against extremism and the black clothed and masked socialists?

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Thames wrote:
Neville Bartos wrote:Other sources for news and current affairs are available.
Bias like everything else is subjective. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... stent-myth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Only you Nevski would suggest the BBC are right wing, quoting the ever so noble Guardian as well. Top marks yet again for why you are indeed in the vast minority in this country, thank god!

What are your thoughts on the football fans marching against extremism and the black clothed and masked socialists?
I don't imbibe enough of the BBC to suggest anything. But If someone moans about the sea being too blue, I guarantee some other cunt will be moaning about it not being blue enough.
The link was an example (I googled right wing BBC bias to find it). No idea why you'd think the link was an endorsement of the opinion. But for the record, I am not Owen Jones -- nor would I want to be... as his bio makes him sound a proper cunt.

Yes I am in a minority. I try and form my own opinions.

A million people marching against the war in Iraq did precisely fuck all. What's changed since then?
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deanox wrote:
Neville Bartos wrote:Other sources for news and current affairs are available.
Bias like everything else is subjective. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... stent-myth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neville if I want a liberal view I'll check out the guardian and if I want s right wing view the sun.
The point is the public pay for the BBC and their remit is to be unbiased.
The Sun? You want the Mail.
Anyway the BBC's remit is to remain impartial and inclusive. I think it's the inclusive bit that can skew things, since it tends to give a disproportionate amount of coverage to minorities. That arch lefty Nigel Farage and his one MP bandwagon springs to mind.
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