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BlackDiamond wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:39 am
mkhammer wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:05 pm Unless you can see into the future...I don't see how you can make judgements on what is correct or incorrect at
this moment in time
Oh yes you can. Food shortages by Jan 7, unrest in Supermarkets the next day. Not bad for 4 years of planning.
The Great Bog Roll Panic of 2020....go down in history that............... :lol:


Seriously mate aint gonna happen...some will want it to,and be quite happy to see us in turmoil....Told yer so ..Told yer so..
they're gonna be disappointed ..

When Brexit was banded about seriously for first time...was acknowledged...that from the date of actually leaving,
it would take 6/7 years to dot the I s and Cross the T s on all contracts,and other bits and pieces...should be done by 2026
or so......so get ready for a shit load more of moaning .....fills news space I spose...

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mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:14 am
terrya1965 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:24 pm

That has nothing to do with the electoral mate.

Personally,I wouldn`t vote for either party..They don`t repesent the many.

One is for the greedy rich and the other for the ethnics.Both parties represent their own agendas and not for 80% of the population.

Where is the party for the normal working person?
Sorry Tel couldn't disagree more...Tories aren't pro rich...they're pro Money and the Economy tho...thats not pro rich
anti poor....
We need Private Companies..to create wealth then create jobs and investments,the more money they make,the more
they can employ..the more Income Tax gets generated,the more people working creates more indirect Tax..VAT etc,
which accounts for...under a Tory Government as much as income tax...the more people spend,that in turn creates jobs...
one leads to another..it's how a successful economy works.

The Tories need people to earn a decent wage and spend it..for the whole thing to work....
The Average Working class Guys and Girls are better off under the Tories..
I'm a Tory for the Working Classes not the wealthy..

Labour want high direct income taxes...tax the Wealthy individuals and Companies to the hilt....stunts growth...
and the individuals couldn't care less..they just move their money elsewhere so their not taxed in the UK....the higher
the tax rates the less gets generated,and they have to borrow more...
Ask the Blair Bods bout that.....Give Give Give,create a benefits lifestyle choice whereby ,your better off on the dole than
working...your not generating the money to cover it...so you "Credit Card " it....deeper and deeper in debt...

Then go fuck this...we're outta here...let the other lot take over....they spend 2/3 years getting things back on track...
..Labour go....Ah things are looking better now...lets stir things up, get the kids on board etc..,and have another go...
And the Circle starts again.
Seriously mate the Tories aren't predominantly for the Rich Bods....There's absolutely no way in the world would I be
one if they were.
It's the Working Class vote the Tories in not the rich bods...they don't care who's in power.
The tories have NEVER been for the people.

Let me just give you one example of them looking after themselves and their colleagues from today..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54978460

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terrya1965 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:34 am
mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:14 am

Sorry Tel couldn't disagree more...Tories aren't pro rich...they're pro Money and the Economy tho...thats not pro rich
anti poor....
We need Private Companies..to create wealth then create jobs and investments,the more money they make,the more
they can employ..the more Income Tax gets generated,the more people working creates more indirect Tax..VAT etc,
which accounts for...under a Tory Government as much as income tax...the more people spend,that in turn creates jobs...
one leads to another..it's how a successful economy works.

The Tories need people to earn a decent wage and spend it..for the whole thing to work....
The Average Working class Guys and Girls are better off under the Tories..
I'm a Tory for the Working Classes not the wealthy..

Labour want high direct income taxes...tax the Wealthy individuals and Companies to the hilt....stunts growth...
and the individuals couldn't care less..they just move their money elsewhere so their not taxed in the UK....the higher
the tax rates the less gets generated,and they have to borrow more...
Ask the Blair Bods bout that.....Give Give Give,create a benefits lifestyle choice whereby ,your better off on the dole than
working...your not generating the money to cover it...so you "Credit Card " it....deeper and deeper in debt...

Then go fuck this...we're outta here...let the other lot take over....they spend 2/3 years getting things back on track...
..Labour go....Ah things are looking better now...lets stir things up, get the kids on board etc..,and have another go...
And the Circle starts again.
Seriously mate the Tories aren't predominantly for the Rich Bods....There's absolutely no way in the world would I be
one if they were.
It's the Working Class vote the Tories in not the rich bods...they don't care who's in power.
The tories have NEVER been for the people.

Let me just give you one example of them looking after themselves and their colleagues from today..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54978460
Margaret Thatcher wanted to create an aspirational society where hard work is incentivised to make you and your family have a better life. It created a boom. She also encouraged people to own their own houses.

Socialism tries to create a society where there is no incentive to work hard and that you get the same regardless which creates a society wanting handouts.

There are exceptions in both models that people jump all over where people need help in the first and don't in the second but calling a socialist party Labour is the biggest irony in politics.

The only way they will ever get into power is if they return to the Blair central ground (minus a war) and with the unions all over them and rife antisemitism in the party I remain to be convinced.

No party is perfect for sure but any voted in and having a majority by definition are for the people.

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BlackDiamond wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:11 am
palerider wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:09 am
Don't get me started on that. 10,000 of them in hotels across the country. Millions wasted in aborted deportation attempts.

If the Tories don't get a handle on that then Farage will be a major factor in 2024.
A surprising government statistic informs that London is 40% BAME. Well it was surprising to me. And that proportion is set to increase because the Asian part of the BAME community favour the more generous populated household.

Now hard on the heels of that announcement, is the growing disquiet with the term BAME by some of the noisy influencers within the BAME establishment. They have suggested that BAME is a tad disrespectful and does not emphasise the respect of the individuals within the collective.

They are advocating discarding the BAME moniker and using the more comfortable "ethnic diverse people" or "diverse ethnic peoples". Somebody unhelpfully suggested they could just refer to themselves as "non-white" but that isn't a goer because it doesn't emphasise their special diversity.
And diversity is the name-game in town.

What to do ? It might well be thought that this is putting "lipstick on a pig" and perhaps the BLM movement could lend a hand here. Plenty of experience with identity awkwardness there.

And we might ask ourselves - during these troubled times - how did we lose control of our bag of marbles and let them roll all over the place...
Am I being incredibly naive to think that by labelling people in this way is completely contrary to the idea that everyone should be regarded as equal ?

Surely there should be no differentiation between people of different ethnic origins if those who wish and expect to be treated as equals are given a different label.
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Starmer has done the right thing and refused to hand the whip back to Catweazle.

But already there have been inevitable condemnations from McCluskey, McDonnell and Abbott. And as McCluskey holds the purse strings I can't see this ending well. If Starmer relents he'll be seen as weak, if he maintains his stance the party will carry on tearing itself apart.

I suppose Jezza could do the decent thing and pop his clogs. He's 103 after all.

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h69 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:07 pm
BillyDWhizz wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:17 pm

No. No he wouldn't.

If there was an election next week the very best Johnson could hope for is a hung parliament. Indeed, several big and respected polling organisations including YouGov , MORI and Opinium have Labour ahead and many others show a considerable degradation of the Tory vote share - enough of a drop to ensure no majority in a GE. I'll concede a bounce for Labour because - let's face it a tin of beans is more popular than Corbyn ever was but Starmer is certainly starting to look like a genuine and capable opposition leader and the polls are starting to reflect this.

Also and I can't stress this enough, Boris would lose a GE simply because of Boris. He's proved to be incompetent, untruthful and weak, which in all honesty should be a surprise to absolutely no one. It's not as if he's suddenly changed his whole persona the moment he blustered and waffled his way to the PMs office now is it?
There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.
?
And Johnson's flavour of the week within his own party is he? He wouldn't even win a leadership challenge let alone a GE! Besides, the loony lefties can bitch and moan all they want, they're aren't enough of them to compensate for the more centrist labour supporters that Starmer looks like he's lining up to be the backbone of the party.
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Personally I can't wait for Diane Abbott to reprise her roll as friar Tuck in a new Robin hood film.
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Brookbonds73 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:44 pm Personally I can't wait for Diane Abbott to reprise her roll as friar Tuck in a new Robin hood film.
That would work - a story of Hillbillies set in Sherwood forest, battling a vegetation borne virus, that turns out door types lungs into crisp packets - Opening score "Take my breath away"

Love, Death, Laughter and a cast that represents every ethnic representative as approved by Nottinghamshire County Council

Basically a BBC2 drama, with a bit of Channel 4 and a squeak of ITV. Diane Abbott playing the good Marion, Danny Dyer as Robin and the extras from the the Walking Dead to represent the salt of the earth types found on lists inside Nottingham County Council HQ

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Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:02 pm
BlackDiamond wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:11 am
A surprising government statistic informs that London is 40% BAME. Well it was surprising to me. And that proportion is set to increase because the Asian part of the BAME community favour the more generous populated household.

Now hard on the heels of that announcement, is the growing disquiet with the term BAME by some of the noisy influencers within the BAME establishment. They have suggested that BAME is a tad disrespectful and does not emphasise the respect of the individuals within the collective.

They are advocating discarding the BAME moniker and using the more comfortable "ethnic diverse people" or "diverse ethnic peoples". Somebody unhelpfully suggested they could just refer to themselves as "non-white" but that isn't a goer because it doesn't emphasise their special diversity.
And diversity is the name-game in town.

What to do ? It might well be thought that this is putting "lipstick on a pig" and perhaps the BLM movement could lend a hand here. Plenty of experience with identity awkwardness there.

And we might ask ourselves - during these troubled times - how did we lose control of our bag of marbles and let them roll all over the place...
Am I being incredibly naive to think that by labelling people in this way is completely contrary to the idea that everyone should be regarded as equal ?

Surely there should be no differentiation between people of different ethnic origins if those who wish and expect to be treated as equals are given a different label.
This...exactly..

The saying goes Divide and Conquer........or Try and Conquer by dividing....the BLM "Leaders" have no intention of
Equality...all about getting the upper hand...

95% plus of our Black Bruvs just want that Equality which we aint quite there with yet....But as per fuckin usual,
the minority 5% screw it up for the well meaning Majority..

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palerider wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:46 pm Starmer has done the right thing and refused to hand the whip back to Catweazle.

But already there have been inevitable condemnations from McCluskey, McDonnell and Abbott. And as McCluskey holds the purse strings I can't see this ending well. If Starmer relents he'll be seen as weak, if he maintains his stance the party will carry on tearing itself apart.

I suppose Jezza could do the decent thing and pop his clogs. He's 103 after all.
Think his plan might be over the coming 2-3 years to fuck that lot off...Mc'clusky leaves in a couple years as well..
Abbot and co will disappear..to where people like that go to....
He would have seen what happened in the Labour strongholds,how they don't want an extreme left politics,to the point
of voting Tory...tho the Brexit stance had a lot to do with that,admittedly.

Nigel will be around still, poss nicking a few votes as well...
in lieu of whats happened in the states as well...rebrand as the Democratic Socialists..bit shit or bust that..but would
work I reckon....do it soon..let people get used to it tho.
Might force a hung Parliament in 4 years...Only hope of getting near the Tories...with or without Big Boris...

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