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terrya1965 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:34 am
mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:14 am

Sorry Tel couldn't disagree more...Tories aren't pro rich...they're pro Money and the Economy tho...thats not pro rich
anti poor....
We need Private Companies..to create wealth then create jobs and investments,the more money they make,the more
they can employ..the more Income Tax gets generated,the more people working creates more indirect Tax..VAT etc,
which accounts for...under a Tory Government as much as income tax...the more people spend,that in turn creates jobs...
one leads to another..it's how a successful economy works.

The Tories need people to earn a decent wage and spend it..for the whole thing to work....
The Average Working class Guys and Girls are better off under the Tories..
I'm a Tory for the Working Classes not the wealthy..

Labour want high direct income taxes...tax the Wealthy individuals and Companies to the hilt....stunts growth...
and the individuals couldn't care less..they just move their money elsewhere so their not taxed in the UK....the higher
the tax rates the less gets generated,and they have to borrow more...
Ask the Blair Bods bout that.....Give Give Give,create a benefits lifestyle choice whereby ,your better off on the dole than
working...your not generating the money to cover it...so you "Credit Card " it....deeper and deeper in debt...

Then go fuck this...we're outta here...let the other lot take over....they spend 2/3 years getting things back on track...
..Labour go....Ah things are looking better now...lets stir things up, get the kids on board etc..,and have another go...
And the Circle starts again.
Seriously mate the Tories aren't predominantly for the Rich Bods....There's absolutely no way in the world would I be
one if they were.
It's the Working Class vote the Tories in not the rich bods...they don't care who's in power.
The tories have NEVER been for the people.

Let me just give you one example of them looking after themselves and their colleagues from today..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54978460
Read some stuff about that yesterday Tel...it sucks not gonna deny that...but it's more an abuse of a system,
bit like a Footie agent getting millions from a transfer deal,rather than being politically motivated ....

Have a go by all means cos they've at the moment failed to stop this shit,which is a worldwide thing,happens everywhere
this bloke was french wasn't he...

Which ever way they do stuff ....there's people scratching around looking for a negative...usually about things they
(press/Media bods) have little understanding of how things work.

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mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:08 pm
Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:02 pm

Am I being incredibly naive to think that by labelling people in this way is completely contrary to the idea that everyone should be regarded as equal ?

Surely there should be no differentiation between people of different ethnic origins if those who wish and expect to be treated as equals are given a different label.
This...exactly..

The saying goes Divide and Conquer........or Try and Conquer by dividing....the BLM "Leaders" have no intention of
Equality...all about getting the upper hand...

95% plus of our Black Bruvs just want that Equality which we aint quite there with yet....But as per fuckin usual,
the minority 5% screw it up for the well meaning Majority..
If people stopped labelling each other based on their ethnic background we may all get on a bit better. BAME, MOBO etc. Why not just call people people FFS

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BlackDiamond wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:04 pm
Brookbonds73 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:44 pm Personally I can't wait for Diane Abbott to reprise her roll as friar Tuck in a new Robin hood film.
That would work - a story of Hillbillies set in Sherwood forest, battling a vegetation borne virus, that turns out door types lungs into crisp packets - Opening score "Take my breath away"

Love, Death, Laughter and a cast that represents every ethnic representative as approved by Nottinghamshire County Council

Basically a BBC2 drama, with a bit of Channel 4 and a squeak of ITV. Diane Abbott playing the good Marion, Danny Dyer as Robin and the extras from the the Walking Dead to represent the salt of the earth types found on lists inside Nottingham County Council HQ
Splendid delivery BD.
Love a cup of Rosey I do.

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mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:08 pm
Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:02 pm

Am I being incredibly naive to think that by labelling people in this way is completely contrary to the idea that everyone should be regarded as equal ?

Surely there should be no differentiation between people of different ethnic origins if those who wish and expect to be treated as equals are given a different label.
This...exactly..

The saying goes Divide and Conquer........or Try and Conquer by dividing....the BLM "Leaders" have no intention of
Equality...all about getting the upper hand...

95% plus of our Black Bruvs just want that Equality which we aint quite there with yet....But as per fuckin usual,
the minority 5% screw it up for the well meaning Majority..
Something I do agree with you on MK.

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BillyDWhizz wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:36 pm
h69 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:07 pm

There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.
?
And Johnson's flavour of the week within his own party is he? He wouldn't even win a leadership challenge let alone a GE! Besides, the loony lefties can bitch and moan all they want, they're aren't enough of them to compensate for the more centrist labour supporters that Starmer looks like he's lining up to be the backbone of the party.
You're probably quite right Billy. But it isn't Labour supporters who vote for the leader, it's the members. And in the main I suspect centrist they are not.

And I'm speaking as a conservative, and a former member of the party at that, when I say it's exactly the same in the Tory party. The local constituency activists decide who will be the leader. The latest government stats apparently relate to 2019 and they show Labour have 485,000 members, and the Tories 180,000. In December 2019 there were just over 47 million people in the U K eligible to vote.

Speaks volumes. And I'm supposed to be grateful that the party for which I have voted in nearly every general election I have been eligible to vote in is considering allowing my wife and I, and countless millions like us, to celebrate Christmas with the whole of my family around us. How very splendid of them. If I lived in North Korea or in a former Soviet satellite state I might consider that the norm and , for fear of impending arrest, comply. But I don't. So fuck them.

We will be celebrating our normal traditional family Christmas, as will a great many other families who we know, irrespective of what nanny government decides is best for us. If they want to arrest us, put us on trial, then bring it on..
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Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:02 pm
BillyDWhizz wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:36 pm

?
And Johnson's flavour of the week within his own party is he? He wouldn't even win a leadership challenge let alone a GE! Besides, the loony lefties can bitch and moan all they want, they're aren't enough of them to compensate for the more centrist labour supporters that Starmer looks like he's lining up to be the backbone of the party.
You're probably quite right Billy. But it isn't Labour supporters who vote for the leader, it's the members. And in the main I suspect centrist they are not.

And I'm speaking as a conservative, and a former member of the party at that, when I say it's exactly the same in the Tory party. The local constituency activists decide who will be the leader. The latest government stats apparently relate to 2019 and they show Labour have 485,000 members, and the Tories 180,000. In December 2019 there were just over 47 million people in the U K eligible to vote.

Speaks volumes. And I'm supposed to be grateful that the party for which I have voted in nearly every general election I have been eligible to vote in is considering allowing my wife and I, and countless millions like us, to celebrate Christmas with the whole of my family around us. How very splendid of them. If I lived in North Korea or in a former Soviet satellite state I might consider that the norm and , for fear of impending arrest, comply. But I don't. So fuck them.

We will be celebrating our normal traditional family Christmas, as will a great many other families who we know, irrespective of what nanny government decides is best for us. If they want to arrest us, put us on trial, then bring it on..
They haven't yet decided what restrictions will replace Lockdown version 2.0 when it expires on December 2. They will probably advocate something similar to last time but different.

At a Downing Street briefing on Wednesday, easy on the eye, Dr Susan Hopkins from Public Health England (PHE) said that to keep the epidemic under control any relaxation over Christmas would need to be balanced by tough restrictions on socialising before and afterwards. That just means we have no idea how this will pan out, but everything has a way of finding a level

One thing they are doing apparently, is suggesting that trackn'trace will be working by end December. And working, means strangers calling other strangers (who might decide to answer an anonymous call) and then recording any useful contact information on Microsoft Excel spreadsheets.

All this might not seem that significant, but there is some pretty serious progress being made somewhere.

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Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:02 pm
BillyDWhizz wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:36 pm

?
And Johnson's flavour of the week within his own party is he? He wouldn't even win a leadership challenge let alone a GE! Besides, the loony lefties can bitch and moan all they want, they're aren't enough of them to compensate for the more centrist labour supporters that Starmer looks like he's lining up to be the backbone of the party.
You're probably quite right Billy. But it isn't Labour supporters who vote for the leader, it's the members. And in the main I suspect centrist they are not.

And I'm speaking as a conservative, and a former member of the party at that, when I say it's exactly the same in the Tory party. The local constituency activists decide who will be the leader. The latest government stats apparently relate to 2019 and they show Labour have 485,000 members, and the Tories 180,000. In December 2019 there were just over 47 million people in the U K eligible to vote.

Speaks volumes. And I'm supposed to be grateful that the party for which I have voted in nearly every general election I have been eligible to vote in is considering allowing my wife and I, and countless millions like us, to celebrate Christmas with the whole of my family around us. How very splendid of them. If I lived in North Korea or in a former Soviet satellite state I might consider that the norm and , for fear of impending arrest, comply. But I don't. So fuck them.

We will be celebrating our normal traditional family Christmas, as will a great many other families who we know, irrespective of what nanny government decides is best for us. If they want to arrest us, put us on trial, then bring it on..
Same.

If that scruffy blond fuck continues to be held to ransom by scientists he'll have to rely on Labour to get it through Parliament which is an utter embarrassment considering the shit-fest they're in.

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palerider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:37 am
Whiskyman wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:02 pm

You're probably quite right Billy. But it isn't Labour supporters who vote for the leader, it's the members. And in the main I suspect centrist they are not.

And I'm speaking as a conservative, and a former member of the party at that, when I say it's exactly the same in the Tory party. The local constituency activists decide who will be the leader. The latest government stats apparently relate to 2019 and they show Labour have 485,000 members, and the Tories 180,000. In December 2019 there were just over 47 million people in the U K eligible to vote.

Speaks volumes. And I'm supposed to be grateful that the party for which I have voted in nearly every general election I have been eligible to vote in is considering allowing my wife and I, and countless millions like us, to celebrate Christmas with the whole of my family around us. How very splendid of them. If I lived in North Korea or in a former Soviet satellite state I might consider that the norm and , for fear of impending arrest, comply. But I don't. So fuck them.

We will be celebrating our normal traditional family Christmas, as will a great many other families who we know, irrespective of what nanny government decides is best for us. If they want to arrest us, put us on trial, then bring it on..
Same.

If that scruffy blond fuck continues to be held to ransom by scientists he'll have to rely on Labour to get it through Parliament which is an utter embarrassment considering the shit-fest they're in.
Carrie Symonds the Trudie Styler of No.10, is planning on getting Bob Geldorf to orchestrate a celebrity zoom Christmas video. Featuring top top talent like Lily Allen and Rappers-R-Us...

Feed the Berks, let them know it's Brexit Time

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terrya1965 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:37 pm
mkhammer wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:08 pm

This...exactly..

The saying goes Divide and Conquer........or Try and Conquer by dividing....the BLM "Leaders" have no intention of
Equality...all about getting the upper hand...

95% plus of our Black Bruvs just want that Equality which we aint quite there with yet....But as per fuckin usual,
the minority 5% screw it up for the well meaning Majority..
Something I do agree with you on MK.
Absolutely no harm whatsoever in disagreeing Tel......I love a passionate discussion with differing views...

Life would be dull and boring if we all thought the same way....be that Politics,Covid,Footie...whatever.

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Dunno bout you guys...but I'd rather support a Party,where it's MPs are able to speak their mind and disagree with
the parties agenda in certain things...1 in 7 disagreeing with the Cabinets decisions...don't have a prob with that,would
expect it in a democracy...I could even understand a 60/40 (Brexit)....but the Majority will be adhered to,not the minority,
to much of that shit in this country....who screams and yells the loudest,must be right.

You Could support the other lot...who cowered behind Corbyn nearly 100% on everything......cos they thought it
would make the Tories less electable......that worked a fuckin treat didn't it.... :lol:

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