Dominic Cummings

[palerider]

No. No he wouldn't.

If there was an election next week the very best Johnson could hope for is a hung parliament. Indeed, several big and respected polling organisations including YouGov , MORI and Opinium have Labour ahead and many others show a considerable degradation of the Tory vote share - enough of a drop to ensure no majority in a GE. I'll concede a bounce for Labour because - let's face it a tin of beans is more popular than Corbyn ever was but Starmer is certainly starting to look like a genuine and capable opposition leader and the polls are starting to reflect this.

Also and I can't stress this enough, Boris would lose a GE simply because of Boris. He's proved to be incompetent, untruthful and weak, which in all honesty should be a surprise to absolutely no one. It's not as if he's suddenly changed his whole persona the moment he blustered and waffled his way to the PMs office now is it?

There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.

He wouldn't beat him but the way BJ is fucking up the country, he'd reduce it to a hung parliament.

But with Trotsky inevitably reinstated, it shows the true colours of the Labour ruling committee. For their own sake the Jew-loathing cunt should have been kicked out for good but Red Len wouldn't allow that.

They'll implode again long before the next GE.

[Whiskyman]

There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.

He wouldn't beat him but the way BJ is fucking up the country, he'd reduce it to a hung parliament.

But with Trotsky inevitably reinstated, it shows the true colours of the Labour ruling committee. For their own sake the Jew-loathing cunt should have been kicked out for good but Red Len wouldn't allow that.

They'll implode again long before the next GE.

Surely it's only a matter of time before we have another "Gang of Four", remember them ?. The Labour party is a dead duck. Even it's fucking name is a throwback to the days when sturdy artisans trudged to the coal face or the docks in their cloth caps and kids were still stuffed up chimneys.

Fit for government ? First they have to demonstrate that as a collective, they should love that word, they are fit for the job of opposition. At the moment they're not. And that is a national tragedy imo because for democracy to work properly there have to be viable alternatives.

The Tory leader is voted for by Tory party members and MPs, a very small number of individuals, and the Labour leader by a slightly larger number of members but still not representative of the country as a whole by a very long way.

[BlackDiamond]

Unless you can see into the future...I don't see how you can make judgements on what is correct or incorrect at
this moment in time

Oh yes you can. Food shortages by Jan 7, unrest in Supermarkets the next day. Not bad for 4 years of planning.

[palerider]

He wouldn't beat him but the way BJ is fucking up the country, he'd reduce it to a hung parliament.

But with Trotsky inevitably reinstated, it shows the true colours of the Labour ruling committee. For their own sake the Jew-loathing cunt should have been kicked out for good but Red Len wouldn't allow that.

They'll implode again long before the next GE.

Surely it's only a matter of time before we have another "Gang of Four", remember them ?. The Labour party is a dead duck. Even it's fucking name is a throwback to the days when sturdy artisans trudged to the coal face or the docks in their cloth caps and kids were still stuffed up chimneys.

Fit for government ? First they have to demonstrate that as a collective, they should love that word, they are fit for the job of opposition. At the moment they're not. And that is a national tragedy imo because for democracy to work properly there have to be viable alternatives.

The Tory leader is voted for by Tory party members and MPs, a very small number of individuals, and the Labour leader by a slightly larger number of members but still not representative of the country as a whole by a very long way.

All very true. You should never have a party in government that's seemingly unaccountable.

And until the hard left element of Labour is put up against a wall and shot, figuratively speaking, they won't get the votes they need.

However, people have long memories. If the buffoon kills Christmas, and millions won't give a toss about covid numbers, he and the Tories will not be forgiven. At the moment it looks as though a 5 day period starting on Christmas Eve to see friends and family is being bandied about. Not ideal as like myself, vast numbers will have made plans outside of those dates, but at least it's something.

Listening to any more 'expert' advice from the four horsemen of the apocalypse and the Red Wall votes lent to him last December will be recalled with interest.

[Whiskyman]

Surely it's only a matter of time before we have another "Gang of Four", remember them ?. The Labour party is a dead duck. Even it's fucking name is a throwback to the days when sturdy artisans trudged to the coal face or the docks in their cloth caps and kids were still stuffed up chimneys.

Fit for government ? First they have to demonstrate that as a collective, they should love that word, they are fit for the job of opposition. At the moment they're not. And that is a national tragedy imo because for democracy to work properly there have to be viable alternatives.

The Tory leader is voted for by Tory party members and MPs, a very small number of individuals, and the Labour leader by a slightly larger number of members but still not representative of the country as a whole by a very long way.

All very true. You should never have a party in government that's seemingly unaccountable.

And until the hard left element of Labour is put up against a wall and shot, figuratively speaking, they won't get the votes they need.

However, people have long memories. If the buffoon kills Christmas, and millions won't give a toss about covid numbers, he and the Tories will not be forgiven. At the moment it looks as though a 5 day period starting on Christmas Eve to see friends and family is being bandied about. Not ideal as like myself, vast numbers will have made plans outside of those dates, but at least it's something.

Listening to any more 'expert' advice from the four horsemen of the apocalypse and the Red Wall votes lent to him last December will be recalled with interest.

The "Red Wall" votes will evaporate, although possibly not all of them back to Labour, when the great unwashed realise that whilst there aren't as many Polish plumbers as there used to be they are still surrounded by assorted asylum seeking , uneducated and unskilled, Africans from assorted locations in that continent.

[palerider]

All very true. You should never have a party in government that's seemingly unaccountable.

And until the hard left element of Labour is put up against a wall and shot, figuratively speaking, they won't get the votes they need.

However, people have long memories. If the buffoon kills Christmas, and millions won't give a toss about covid numbers, he and the Tories will not be forgiven. At the moment it looks as though a 5 day period starting on Christmas Eve to see friends and family is being bandied about. Not ideal as like myself, vast numbers will have made plans outside of those dates, but at least it's something.

Listening to any more 'expert' advice from the four horsemen of the apocalypse and the Red Wall votes lent to him last December will be recalled with interest.

The "Red Wall" votes will evaporate, although possibly not all of them back to Labour, when the great unwashed realise that whilst there aren't as many Polish plumbers as there used to be they are still surrounded by assorted asylum seeking , uneducated and unskilled, Africans from assorted locations in that continent.

Don't get me started on that. 10,000 of them in hotels across the country. Millions wasted in aborted deportation attempts.

If the Tories don't get a handle on that then Farage will be a major factor in 2024.

[h69]

There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.

That has nothing to do with the electoral mate.

Personally,I wouldn`t vote for either party..They don`t repesent the many.

One is for the greedy rich and the other for the ethnics.Both parties represent their own agendas and not for 80% of the population.

Where is the party for the normal working person?

It does if it means Starmer wont get to the election because Red Len will get him ousted. Lets face it, 'Labour' are run by the unions not Starmer.

Look at the fuss they made when he sacked that blind bint Long-Bailey.

[mkhammer]

Wait till he employs his Jewish deputy shadow PM
Then fucks that cunt McCluskey off
And watch them self implode

He will never get McCluskey out but if he did you are right, it would be like an Atom bomb.

Think he stepping down in 22...not 100% on that..read it somewhere...Suits Starmer at moment...keep the Lefties happy,
slowly work he's own in....not an easy thing with the unions tho...think in future Unite and other unions will move away from the
Exreme Left become more centerists.....about time IMO...
They represent such a small part of public opinion to have so much power.

Unions were one of the Greatest things to happen to this Country..............Ended up one of the worst...IMO..

[BlackDiamond]

The "Red Wall" votes will evaporate, although possibly not all of them back to Labour, when the great unwashed realise that whilst there aren't as many Polish plumbers as there used to be they are still surrounded by assorted asylum seeking , uneducated and unskilled, Africans from assorted locations in that continent.

Don't get me started on that. 10,000 of them in hotels across the country. Millions wasted in aborted deportation attempts.

If the Tories don't get a handle on that then Farage will be a major factor in 2024.

A surprising government statistic informs that London is 40% BAME. Well it was surprising to me. And that proportion is set to increase because the Asian part of the BAME community favour the more generous populated household.

Now hard on the heels of that announcement, is the growing disquiet with the term BAME by some of the noisy influencers within the BAME establishment. They have suggested that BAME is a tad disrespectful and does not emphasise the respect of the individuals within the collective.

They are advocating discarding the BAME moniker and using the more comfortable "ethnic diverse people" or "diverse ethnic peoples". Somebody unhelpfully suggested they could just refer to themselves as "non-white" but that isn't a goer because it doesn't emphasise their special diversity.
And diversity is the name-game in town.

What to do ? It might well be thought that this is putting "lipstick on a pig" and perhaps the BLM movement could lend a hand here. Plenty of experience with identity awkwardness there.

And we might ask ourselves - during these troubled times - how did we lose control of our bag of marbles and let them roll all over the place...

[mkhammer]

There is no way Starmer would beat Johnson. Most of his party hate him also since he binned a few of the left wing.

That has nothing to do with the electoral mate.

Personally,I wouldn`t vote for either party..They don`t repesent the many.

One is for the greedy rich and the other for the ethnics.Both parties represent their own agendas and not for 80% of the population.

Where is the party for the normal working person?

Sorry Tel couldn't disagree more...Tories aren't pro rich...they're pro Money and the Economy tho...thats not pro rich
anti poor....
We need Private Companies..to create wealth then create jobs and investments,the more money they make,the more
they can employ..the more Income Tax gets generated,the more people working creates more indirect Tax..VAT etc,
which accounts for...under a Tory Government as much as income tax...the more people spend,that in turn creates jobs...
one leads to another..it's how a successful economy works.

The Tories need people to earn a decent wage and spend it..for the whole thing to work....
The Average Working class Guys and Girls are better off under the Tories..
I'm a Tory for the Working Classes not the wealthy..

Labour want high direct income taxes...tax the Wealthy individuals and Companies to the hilt....stunts growth...
and the individuals couldn't care less..they just move their money elsewhere so their not taxed in the UK....the higher
the tax rates the less gets generated,and they have to borrow more...
Ask the Blair Bods bout that.....Give Give Give,create a benefits lifestyle choice whereby ,your better off on the dole than
working...your not generating the money to cover it...so you "Credit Card " it....deeper and deeper in debt...

Then go fuck this...we're outta here...let the other lot take over....they spend 2/3 years getting things back on track...
..Labour go....Ah things are looking better now...lets stir things up, get the kids on board etc..,and have another go...
And the Circle starts again.
Seriously mate the Tories aren't predominantly for the Rich Bods....There's absolutely no way in the world would I be
one if they were.
It's the Working Class vote the Tories in not the rich bods...they don't care who's in power.