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Re: Labour run Croydon

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Whiskyman wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:54 am
Shortshanks wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:14 pm What was the National debt in 2010 and what is it now ? Have we not been downgraded 3 times by the credit agencies since 2012 ? :lol: :lol: :lol: You probably didn't know that.
Those downgrades are nothing compared to what will probably happen when the full impact of Brexit is felt by our once world leading financial sector.

According to the government's own figures 7,500 jobs have already been lost to other EU financial centres. That's not too many you may say. But, wait for it, over £1 TRILLION pounds of assets have already been repatriated elsewhere. Given that the financial services sector in our country is regarded, at least at the moment, as up there with the world's leaders, that is a really scary statistic. And bear in mind the full impact of Brexit won't be felt until January when the new regulations come into being.
Trouble is,they got every excuse to blame Covid,instead of Brexit.

When the prices rise rapidly and there is nothing in the shops,it won`t be because of Covid.

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BillyDWhizz wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:54 pm How much of it is down to the Government dolling out more cash at Conservative councils than Labour ones is a matter for debate but you'd have to suspect it is a factor. That said, Croydon appears to be completely dysfunctional in the way it's been run and has been asking for trouble for some time, blaming the pandemic is just an easy excuse to try and hide their incompetency.

However, all you lot who are citing Labour councils as financial cretins should be aware that the last authority to impose emergency spending restrictions under a Section 114 notice was Tory run Northamptonshire County Council as recently as 2018 - and they didn't have Covid as an excuse.

Wiltshire CC aren't in good shape either and could be in a similar situation Croydon soon and they only have 2 Labour representatives - the majority being Tory with a large slice of Lib dems thrown in for good measure. My point being that's it's easy to look at all the Labour run councils and cry "socialist failures" at them but the truth of the matter is that ALL councils are feeling the pinch and many are in deep, deep trouble, no matter which colour they happen to be.

Until spurious spending, exacerbated costs and piss poor management/leadership are eliminated across the board, I can't see anything changing anytime soon in any council across the country.
Mate I don't disagree with most of that...Councils in General are Burdensome...not all tho.

I spose we could look at it from a business/financial angle...which IMO you have to for pretty much everything politically..
If A Council...any Council..has hit hard times for a number of reasons..like said the inner city Labour ones will have
more probs,I get that...we're obliged, the Government that is to bail them out,I say we cos it's our Taxes,end of the day,
but if a council has a history of being...well basically crap...total mismanagement....wasteful...it becomes like pouring
money down a drain..you gotta say no more,this has to stop...each case is different...different problems.

So you take a look at the books...will extra funding help,or is it a waste of time....thats a tough call cos it's peoples
livelihoods we're talkin about...but you just can't indefinitely keep pumping money into something,anything,
and not see a positive outcome from it.

If there was unjustified favouritism for a council because of it's political base....goes without saying ..thats wrong..

Boris' ideal thing would be to Fund Councils..and let them run do their own thing....we can't trust them to do that...

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terrya1965 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:09 am
Whiskyman wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:54 am

Those downgrades are nothing compared to what will probably happen when the full impact of Brexit is felt by our once world leading financial sector.

According to the government's own figures 7,500 jobs have already been lost to other EU financial centres. That's not too many you may say. But, wait for it, over £1 TRILLION pounds of assets have already been repatriated elsewhere. Given that the financial services sector in our country is regarded, at least at the moment, as up there with the world's leaders, that is a really scary statistic. And bear in mind the full impact of Brexit won't be felt until January when the new regulations come into being.
Trouble is,they got every excuse to blame Covid,instead of Brexit.

When the prices rise rapidly and there is nothing in the shops,it won`t be because of Covid.
Covid doesn't have any effect on the transferring of assets across economic boundaries Tel. And even the British public, although collectively stupid enough to swallow a lot of shit, could see through that if it was attempted.
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Whiskyman wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:34 pm
terrya1965 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:09 am

Trouble is,they got every excuse to blame Covid,instead of Brexit.

When the prices rise rapidly and there is nothing in the shops,it won`t be because of Covid.
Covid doesn't have any effect on the transferring of assets across economic boundaries Tel. And even the British public, although collectively stupid enough to swallow a lot of shit, could see through that if it was attempted.
Me and you know that,but there are plenty that will fool for it mate.

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BillyDWhizz wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:54 pm How much of it is down to the Government dolling out more cash at Conservative councils than Labour ones is a matter for debate but you'd have to suspect it is a factor. That said, Croydon appears to be completely dysfunctional in the way it's been run and has been asking for trouble for some time, blaming the pandemic is just an easy excuse to try and hide their incompetency.

However, all you lot who are citing Labour councils as financial cretins should be aware that the last authority to impose emergency spending restrictions under a Section 114 notice was Tory run Northamptonshire County Council as recently as 2018 - and they didn't have Covid as an excuse.

Wiltshire CC aren't in good shape either and could be in a similar situation Croydon soon and they only have 2 Labour representatives - the majority being Tory with a large slice of Lib dems thrown in for good measure. My point being that's it's easy to look at all the Labour run councils and cry "socialist failures" at them but the truth of the matter is that ALL councils are feeling the pinch and many are in deep, deep trouble, no matter which colour they happen to be.

Until spurious spending, exacerbated costs and piss poor management/leadership are eliminated across the board, I can't see anything changing anytime soon in any council across the country.
Don't think it has anything to do with the govts doling out of anything.

If you allocate £260m to a housing scheme and only build three 3 bed semis with it then I would want to ask where the money has gone. 80m a house FFS 🤣🤣

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