Hammers Chat

BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:06 pm

mkhammer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:10 pm Why can you say "A Person of Colour"..thats fine and dandy PC correct and all that shit...but you say "A person has Colour"
as in he/she is a Coloured Footballer/Shopkeeper..etc.. whatever ...you're some kinda Extreme Nazi loving Black Hating thug....
According to a small minority anyway....

It's descriptive thats all...as in he/she has blue eyes...Blond/Dark hair...fat/thin...tall/short...not racist whatsoever..

Colour has almost become a swearword......................some people like keeping things Black and White I spose..
Makes it all simple..

Bring it up..cos was watching something on TV... 2 women discussing the topic....One was "Black", one was a Latino
who are classified as white...cos we cant use any colour description.....The "Black" women had a lighter Skin tone than
the White Latino...

It's fuckin crazy.....

The problem is applying the colour thing in the first place. In African countries they don't describe themselves as "Black" because they are not. Their overall skin complexion is mid-brown, brown. In the same way white people are not actually white. They are categorized as pale skinned and this generally describes people of a European origin or used to.

Mixing language and anthropology we get the terms Caucasian,African,Hispanic,Asian,Chinese and all the other dolly mixtures and all their hybrid sub sets. Absolutely nothing wrong in that.

Then when you add a layer of socio political doctrine to the smorgasbord of pseudo science, you get something like the BLM movement as a construct.
And when you try and organise these things along racial divisions that always ends bad. Any reading of history supplies that conclusion.

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:45 pm India is all Hindu and Sikh and stuff. Massive massive rivalry and racism between the 2. So not quite sane religion and culture

mkhammer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:53 pm

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:45 pm India is all Hindu and Sikh and stuff. Massive massive rivalry and racism between the 2. So not quite sane religion and culture

Think India is nearly all Hindu Jay..Muslim next....Sikhs and Bhuddists make up a very small part....but is a valid point mate..

Hinduism has 4 different Castes,basically a class system.......theres a 5th one the outcasts...the untouchables...

The BLM bods wanna take a look at that .they wanna see inequality.

BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:06 pm

mkhammer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:10 pm The problem is applying the colour thing in the first place. In African countries they don't describe themselves as "Black" because they are not. Their overall skin complexion is mid-brown, brown. In the same way white people are not actually white. They are categorized as pale skinned and this generally describes people of a European origin or used to.

There will be a Dulux chart next

Then a book, 50 shades of....

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:45 pm India is all Hindu and Sikh and stuff. Massive massive rivalry and racism between the 2. So not quite sane religion and culture

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:28 pm

mkhammer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:53 pm

Think India is nearly all Hindu Jay..Muslim next....Sikhs and Bhuddists make up a very small part....but is a valid point mate..

Hinduism has 4 different Castes,basically a class system.......theres a 5th one the outcasts...the untouchables...

The BLM bods wanna take a look at that .they wanna see inequality.

Yeah could be more historical than present. Only know a little bit from talking to a guy who was on secondment with my team at O2 about 10 years ago so am very vague on the info he did tell me. Was a definite class system going on though and that carried on to modern times and over here. He lived in Leicester and was bottom of the class system due to being I think Sikh who are the farmer class.
Like I said, very vague and I could be completely muddled but there are facts in there somewhere

Edit:
And BLM will never learn from that coz they’ll think they’re better than that

Dwayne Pipes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:35 am

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:45 pm India is all Hindu and Sikh and stuff. Massive massive rivalry and racism between the 2. So not quite sane religion and culture

Used to be some massive rows over Central and Plashet Parks
Indians v Pakistanis.

mkhammer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:07 am

JayK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:28 pm

Yeah could be more historical than present. Only know a little bit from talking to a guy who was on secondment with my team at O2 about 10 years ago so am very vague on the info he did tell me. Was a definite class system going on though and that carried on to modern times and over here. He lived in Leicester and was bottom of the class system due to being I think Sikh who are the farmer class.
Like I said, very vague and I could be completely muddled but there are facts in there somewhere

Edit:
And BLM will never learn from that coz they’ll think they’re better than that

Crazy in this day and age mate....used to work with some Indian guys ,was very prevalent,one lot were very subservient
to the others...but they all seemed to be ok with it,and treated it as the norm...

Funny the Muslims in india ,won't have any of it..say it's wrong