The government should have kept with the tiered regional approach because to move to lockdown from Tier 2 shows a complete admission of incompetence. That level of ineptitude leads to non compliance.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:50 pmAs said previously I couldn't care less how the rest of the world is handling or not handling it. I am only concerned that my kids and then my grandchildren, are left with some sort of future after this shitfest. Governments the world over are like fucking sheep. They follow each other to the slaughterhouse.mkhammer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:55 am
Sorry just can't see how we can blame this Government for the present times.and their handling of it,when the whole world
and I mean the Whole World...is going thru the same thing and pretty much handling things the same way...
Like said before if we were noticeably doing worse than anywhere else...the sceptics like yourself and others on here and
elsewhere,would have a case, an argument...just not getting the angle at moment...
I get the Political gain thing...and some of the crap I'm hearing from that is Bloody embarrassing ...hope to fuck
some of these people never get into office...if you use political gain,at least make it halfway valid,not gobbledegook..
I think we disagree a fair bit on this....Stats/Scientific Approach/Economy/Boris and Co...
Hard to sum it up,in a few sentences..hence my long posts at times.... ..
The In and out of Lockdown has allowed the Economy to generate something,maybe just enabling us to Lockdown again
and extend the Furlough which to me is F.in Amazing how we can do that...
I'll use me as an example....in between Lockdowns I've been to Lake District twice was gonna go next weekend again,
London 3 times...Brighton a few Times..Cornwall....We've spent a fair bit and put that into the Economy...
So would have thought you would agree we can't stay in a lockdown...but when it Spikes as it is, we have no choice,
there just isnt one...shut up shop a bit or it spreads faster,maybe out of control...when the really sick can't get
into hospital...thats when the shit really hits the fan.
What this thing does, dictates what we do and we don't know what it's gonna do....take a look at world stats,we've a bloody
long way to go yet.
I just can't imagine being in Johnsons boots at the moment,would love to be PM...wouldn't do it for all the money in
the world at moment.
But on the whole ..Happy is the wrong word ,but I'm OK with the way we are handling it..
As you say we disagree fundamentally on this. I believe the only statistic that actually matters is the one that reads "DEATHS CAUSED DIRECTLY BY THE VIRUS". People get sick, they don't usually die. But in winter, every winter, older people drop off their perches at a faster rate than in the summer. That has been the case since time began hasn't it? And it will be the same again this year. But how many deaths can honestly be attributed to Covid and Covid alone ?
I take your point about the really sick not getting into hospital but, hey, with all those unused ventilators sitting in warehouses doesn't that suggest a lot of people are not getting "really sick" ? Is it necessary to admit someone with the virus to hospital just because they have it ? Mrs Ws friend is a GP and she has told her that in Mid Herts (our area) 90% of Covid admissions were non critical. Make of that what you will.
And if no vaccine is discovered what do we do ? Carry on into and out of lockdowns like some demented cunt doing the Hokey Cokey in the local working man's club ? Or do we give the "herd immunity" theory a chance and see if that works.?
Maybe I'm completely wrong but I honestly believe people the world over are being totally misled about this thing. And the sad thing is us fuckers are gullible enough to believe the propaganda we're being fed.
Which is a shame really because a government only has two real priorities. The nations health and the economy