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Dwayne Pipes wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:29 pm
mkhammer wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:26 am


Bill,every single country is different...in every aspect of this...from how it got in,how many people entered that particular
country in the early days, that were infected,so were passing it around before ANYONE was aware...population density,
Climate maybe,what season it was in when started taking hold...infrastructure,overcrowding in vulnerable areas,
the way a society works....does it have mass gatherings at public events..is the ethnic make up of the country maybe more
vulnerable to the virus...does the country already have things in place to cope with it...does it have high rate of population
movement...i.e tourists,business travellers...etc.....is it going thru other problems causing movement and meetings(BLM)
meaning poss infections that wouldn't have otherwise have happened...mate could go on...these aren't excuses they are
facts.
There's NO set way to deal with this....the only way cant be done...a complete and utter shut down worldwide...thats
beyond impossible...cos more people would die from the after effects of that than would actually die from Covid.

Totally disagree...we are not way way worse than anyone else....the death rate are slightly above the "True" Ave..
because of the way we report and log them ...like said before on here...a Bloke has Covid,makes a complete recovery
month later gets knocked down and killed by a bus...Goes down as Traffic Accident,but Covid also goes on the death
certificate and gets logged and reported as a covid death as well...I've not worked out why we do that.

Some of the reporting and logging of death rates is a joke...look at Russias death rate stats...prob a hundredth
of ours..do they have a different virus...Thing just watched on tv now...reckon Brazil could be 6 times worse than
reported figures....look at some of the stats ..they don't make any logical sense...
No doubt you and the other guys do your own research...but put this up before.....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
helps get to see whats happening Worldwide....there loads of other stuff out there...not saying anything you don't already
know...

Our News reporting on this is so blinkered...and do you really believe...they are supporting the Government on this,
and not digging them out at every single opportunity ..it's constant Bill...

Our Stats when broken down...everything taken in are about average....deaths per million...death rate by infection..
death s by population...etc...

Are you looking at this because your anti Tory/Boris...or being totally objective....
If any governments to blame its the fucking Chinese one.
And now they've brought back the beubonic plague, the cunts. I dunno how or why but my guess would be coz of their evil fuckin labs again.
COYI!!!

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terrya1965 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:45 am
Even though we pay France a small fortune to monitor the waters,they really don`t give a monkeys.They get here,it is now OUR problem.

Cut the money off and patrol the waters ourselves.

Apparently,there are tens of thousands living in hotels up and down the countries at the taxpayers expense..While we are doing this,it will never stop..Australia on very strict on Refugees coming in and they have the room to fit our island into their country 20 fold..I think we need a war :(
Well protecting the old borders was precisely the reason all these clever people voted for BREXIT. It turns out over 4,000 invaders have made the journey from France quite successfully in the past 6 months.

And even if they wanted to protect the borders there are no laws in place that allow boats to be sunk off the coast anyway.

Forget borders because there is fuck all we can do and concentrate on the trade benefits. Since the UK economy is based on services and we have closed access to EU services then we can flex our own muscles. What this means is,when we have re-negotiated all the previous EU business from the European market to the non-European markets with better deals obviously, all with lower tariffs, then it will be cheaper to import than produce.

Which is good because our production has taken a bit of a nose dive. However big plans are in place to stimulate the economy,getting the nation to eat out for a month,being just one and persuading people to stop working from home because nobody is going to the shops.

And the fact that companies are letting people have early retirement or relocating their offices to Germany is just an adjustment to the new way forward, as the government like to put it.

We might not be in perfectly safe hands, but we are safer than we were last week,unless last week was 7 days ago.

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JayK wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:12 pm
Dwayne Pipes wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:29 pm


If any governments to blame its the fucking Chinese one.
And now they've brought back the beubonic plague, the cunts. I dunno how or why but my guess would be coz of their evil fuckin labs again.
Them fucking Chinese have a lot to answer for had this been America or any other western Country there would have been fucking murders over this.
Not forgetting our Russian friends for Novochuck.

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Dwayne Pipes wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:55 pm
JayK wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:12 pm


And now they've brought back the beubonic plague, the cunts. I dunno how or why but my guess would be coz of their evil fuckin labs again.
Them fucking Chinese have a lot to answer for had this been America or any other western Country there would have been fucking murders over this.
Not forgetting our Russian friends for Novochuck.
Pretty sure it's all because of the economy. Let them off coz of the trade deals. Wankers.
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The Predictions for the Worlds Economies is a downturn of about 7/8 % or so...next 12 months,and picking up 5% year
after...ours is due to maybe fall by 9%....worst case 10%...would be a huge problem,but because it's a worldwide down turn
it's a leveller..so the effect wont be as bad as if it was just us...
The Extra for us is due to Brexit,cos quite poss the Economy was due to slow for a year or 2 then pick up again...these are
just General forecasts .....so who knows...some of the Bank of Englands forecasting has been crap...same IMF....

Germanys predicted downturn is between 7/8 %....France and Spain...Italy all well into potential double figures,seen 12.5%
.....USA is 8%..Japan 6%..

Think things might be worse actually, in any recovery...cos there's a whole lot of 3rd world countries gonna go bankrupt...
The Wealthier Bods are gonna have to dig deep....because their bankruptcies mean people die......

Shit times ahead..no doubt,unemployment/businesses closing etc...but Please guys it isn't just us...it's Worldwide.

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mkhammer wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:23 am
The Predictions for the Worlds Economies is a downturn of about 7/8 % or so...next 12 months,and picking up 5% year
after...ours is due to maybe fall by 9%....worst case 10%...would be a huge problem,but because it's a worldwide down turn
it's a leveller..so the effect wont be as bad as if it was just us...
The Extra for us is due to Brexit,cos quite poss the Economy was due to slow for a year or 2 then pick up again...these are
just General forecasts .....so who knows...some of the Bank of Englands forecasting has been crap...same IMF....

Germanys predicted downturn is between 7/8 %....France and Spain...Italy all well into potential double figures,seen 12.5%
.....USA is 8%..Japan 6%..

Think things might be worse actually, in any recovery...cos there's a whole lot of 3rd world countries gonna go bankrupt...
The Wealthier Bods are gonna have to dig deep....because their bankruptcies mean people die......

Shit times ahead..no doubt,unemployment/businesses closing etc...but Please guys it isn't just us...it's Worldwide.
An excuse for the tories to blame EVERYTHING on Coronavirus and not Brexit..A massive get out of jail card for them in my opinion..Like before under Cameron and Osbourne,everyone else will suffer Austerity,apart from the well off,who will still makes millions.

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Re: Coronavirus

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terrya1965 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:37 am
mkhammer wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:23 am
The Predictions for the Worlds Economies is a downturn of about 7/8 % or so...next 12 months,and picking up 5% year
after...ours is due to maybe fall by 9%....worst case 10%...would be a huge problem,but because it's a worldwide down turn
it's a leveller..so the effect wont be as bad as if it was just us...
The Extra for us is due to Brexit,cos quite poss the Economy was due to slow for a year or 2 then pick up again...these are
just General forecasts .....so who knows...some of the Bank of Englands forecasting has been crap...same IMF....

Germanys predicted downturn is between 7/8 %....France and Spain...Italy all well into potential double figures,seen 12.5%
.....USA is 8%..Japan 6%..

Think things might be worse actually, in any recovery...cos there's a whole lot of 3rd world countries gonna go bankrupt...
The Wealthier Bods are gonna have to dig deep....because their bankruptcies mean people die......

Shit times ahead..no doubt,unemployment/businesses closing etc...but Please guys it isn't just us...it's Worldwide.
An excuse for the tories to blame EVERYTHING on Coronavirus and not Brexit..A massive get out of jail card for them in my opinion..Like before under Cameron and Osbourne,everyone else will suffer Austerity,apart from the well off,who will still makes millions.
I've said that Tel,not them.....far as I'm aware,it's not been mentioned...and it's not an excuse,a reason isn't necessarily
an excuse.

The Working classes will feel the future problems more than the wealthier....that's life Worldwide...if you have an answer
for that your Clever...cos it doesn't exist...

No matter which form of Government you have in....from the Leftie based of Russia/China...to the Capitalistic west,
States...Aus...Canada...anywhere for that matter, any regime.....the people that have the money/power do the best...
always has been always will be..

Again it isn't just our Country that's like it mate.

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The glorious twelfth

Anyone go Grouse shooting today?

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People have not been following the PM's return to work suggestion and consequently we are not yet seeing the rise in infections that are happening on the continent.

France have said the problem is people mixing with each other and making themselves ill. While Germany are now suggesting home working is the preferred way of getting business done.

In some ways the PM being the person he is and the public's appreciation of him being that person, is now having the paradoxical affect of actually saving lives.

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BlackDiamond wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:50 pm
People have not been following the PM's return to work suggestion and consequently we are not yet seeing the rise in infections that are happening on the continent.

France have said the problem is people mixing with each other and making themselves ill. While Germany are now suggesting home working is the preferred way of getting business done.

In some ways the PM being the person he is and the public's appreciation of him being that person, is now having the paradoxical affect of actually saving lives.
So basically Cunts save lives ?

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