Reasons it may be time to sack Moyes

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Reasons it may be time to sack Moyes

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Form
2 wins in the last 10 games and a good argument that many games previous we were lucky to get results. This is relegation form if it continues.

KPI failure
When joining he stated that he would use the 'Red Bull model' going forward. Players who got game time yesterday included Cresswell, Dawson, Fabianski, Coufal, Antonio, Noble, Yarmalinko, Coufal, Lanzini. Any superior would see that as not only negligence but failure to carry out pre-defined objectives leaving the club in a precarious position this summer.

Poor transfer policy
Since being at the club Moyes has overseen a haphazard transfer policy that lacks forward thinking and does not deal with current or future issues. He has also managed to create one of the great footballing contradictions - being tight and cautious with money whilst wasting loads. Poor signings include Vlasic, Hugill, Areola, Benrhama, Soucek, Coufal, Kral.

lack of in-game vision
The fear of failure, after numerous club failures previously, leaves him incapable of making any decisions that he feels will fall back on him. This has been evident the last two seasons.

Trading off his players
He has been happy to take praise all season but yesterday, when the inevitable happened, he massively went into self preservation mode and threw his players under the bus. Reality is people are realising that any improvements are down to Rice and not Moyes. Inevitable he will use the same tactic next season and lose the team, creating a toxic atmosphere at the club

Failure to provide any evidence he looks beyond the next game
Lack of transition from youth to first team under him. No signings looking that look to the future. Constant game of survive this week and and then worry about the next game after. This attitude will catch up with him and be horrendous for the club.
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And yet the club has done better in the last two seasons , consistently finishing top seven and in Europe again which we have never done in consecutive seasons .
Maybe we could have done so much better , tactically and with team selection and the big issue has been lack of team depth .

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Clayton wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:31 am And yet the club has done better in the last two seasons , consistently finishing top seven and in Europe again which we have never done in consecutive seasons .
Maybe we could have done so much better , tactically and with team selection and the big issue has been lack of team depth .
Downward trend. 9 points worse off than previous season. 15% decline in performance year on year.
Any business would be petrified of this trend.
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Let's be honest here,the lack of depth in both seasons stopped us from achieving more than we did.

Overall,we cannot complain about qualifying for Europe two seasons on the trot, finishing top 7,twice on the bounce for the first time in our history.

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terrya1965 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:44 am Let's be honest here,the lack of depth in both seasons stopped us from achieving more than we did.

Overall,we cannot complain about qualifying for Europe two seasons on the trot, finishing top 7,twice on the bounce for the first time in our history.
I don't buy that. Yesterday 2-1 down,7th place secure,why not throw Oko-flex,Yarmolenko on.
Move Bowen central,flanked with Antonio and Ox. Yarmolenko operating as a 10 behind an attacking trident.

Go for it,try and win the fucking thing. Change the approach with a surge. You don't need to worry about conceding when it looks like you have already lost ffs.

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BlackDiamond wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:27 am
terrya1965 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:44 am Let's be honest here,the lack of depth in both seasons stopped us from achieving more than we did.

Overall,we cannot complain about qualifying for Europe two seasons on the trot, finishing top 7,twice on the bounce for the first time in our history.
I don't buy that. Yesterday 2-1 down,7th place secure,why not throw Oko-flex,Yarmolenko on.
Move Bowen central,flanked with Antonio and Ox. Yarmolenko operating as a 10 behind an attacking trident.

Go for it,try and win the fucking thing. Change the approach with a surge. You don't need to worry about conceding when it looks like you have already lost ffs.
100%. 7th was already secured. Just fuckin go for it
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terrya1965 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:44 am Let's be honest here,the lack of depth in both seasons stopped us from achieving more than we did.

Overall,we cannot complain about qualifying for Europe two seasons on the trot, finishing top 7,twice on the bounce for the first time in our history.
No. Facts tell a different story.

Moyes spent 50% more on transfers this season and had 12 months longer coaching the players ......... yet the result is 15 points reduction.
Everyone will be worried about that.
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BlackDiamond wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:27 am
terrya1965 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:44 am Let's be honest here,the lack of depth in both seasons stopped us from achieving more than we did.

Overall,we cannot complain about qualifying for Europe two seasons on the trot, finishing top 7,twice on the bounce for the first time in our history.
I don't buy that. Yesterday 2-1 down,7th place secure,why not throw Oko-flex,Yarmolenko on.
Move Bowen central,flanked with Antonio and Ox. Yarmolenko operating as a 10 behind an attacking trident.

Go for it,try and win the fucking thing. Change the approach with a surge. You don't need to worry about conceding when it looks like you have already lost ffs.
Can't argue with that, nothing ventured nothing gained and we had more to gain than we did to lose. Shows how afraid he is to make decisions that are out of his comfort zone.

As for comparing last season's results with this one, Poppy cock, the lay out was different, had different hurdles to jump. The fault was in how this one was managed. It could have been 6th again and if comparisons want to be made between the two seasons it would have made this one better based on the fact we were fighting on an extra front.

But that isn't a get out for Moyes, just a kick up the Arris to change.
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JayK wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:31 am
BlackDiamond wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 11:27 am
I don't buy that. Yesterday 2-1 down,7th place secure,why not throw Oko-flex,Yarmolenko on.
Move Bowen central,flanked with Antonio and Ox. Yarmolenko operating as a 10 behind an attacking trident.

Go for it,try and win the fucking thing. Change the approach with a surge. You don't need to worry about conceding when it looks like you have already lost ffs.
100%. 7th was already secured. Just fuckin go for it
The one point that can't be disagreed on is that a defeat yesterday was completely irrelevant. We had already qualified for the "lesser" competition and would still have done so even had we lost by 5 or 6 chasing the game. So there was absolutely no downside to adopting a more aggressive approach.
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Negative jock twat.

There was more chance of getting a bj off Kate Middleton than us scoring in the second half.

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