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Re: What will be our Final position and other questions?

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Gonzo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:41 pm
dorsetdano wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:59 am Everyone is going to laugh at me, but here it goes:-

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Here's my reckoning. Citeh and all of the teams around us are involved in one other important competitions (to their owners) at least. All the clubs are claiming their players are knackered, and results are backing that up. From now to the end of the season we only have one week where we play two games.

United (4 points ahead) are still in the FA Cup and Europa League, they will get to the next round of the Europa so that is a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be up to 11). Yes they have a big squad, but whenever Bruno Fernandez doesn't play they look shit and the guy is knackered.
Leicester (4 points ahead) also still in the FA Cup & Europa League, they will also play a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be to 11)
Chelsea also still in FA Cup & Champions League they will play a minimum of 3 more games than us (could be up to 10). Teucel is already beginning to lose it, subbing Hudson-Odoi 30 mins after he'd come on as a sub, will cause resentment in the squad. Also he continues to pick Werner when the guy is out of form/knackered. Chelsea's squad is a nightmare
Liverpool absolutely ravaged by injuries 5 points behind us, in Champions League; they will play a minimum of 2 more games (could be up to 7)
Everton 5 points behind and also still in the FA Cup, have one game in hand (unfortunately its vs WBA away) minimum 2 more games than us (could be 5)
Villa 9 points behind us, two games in hand; Grealish is injured
Spurs 9 points behind us , one game in hand. In League Cup final and Europa League, Minimum 4 more games than us, could be 8 more)
Arsenal 11 points behind us, minimum 3 more games, could be 7 more games.

Covid could trip up any of the above (or us)!

We need the key members of the squad to stay fit, Rice, Soucek, Dawson (can't believe I'm saying that), Fabianski, Ogbonna, Soufal, Lingard, Antonio. We also need some decisions going our way. Having had only one penalty this season is ridiculous. COYI
This is my father. He's escaped from the care home and is currently walking the streets armed only with his mobile phone and a can of Special Brew.

If anyone finds him please return the mad bastard to the appropriate authorities.
Don't be so hard on the old man Kris ,let the old boy have a second childhood , all these years of being a fan of West Ham couldn't have done him any good , and it now looks like he finally can .

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Re: What will be our Final position and other questions?

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palerider wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:28 am
BlackDiamond wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:15 am
That's easily remedied. League position is important for extra money it earns. Use the fringe players and youth for the european games. Just because you qualify doesn't mean you have to impact the first XI
Unless we make the Champions League, and I still can't believe I'm saying that, the Europa League will lose you money until you make the last 8. So it won't make any difference what team you put out unless the dwarf tells the kids and reserves to make their own way to Uzbekistan for a Thursday.

He'd love the former but the thought of the latter will have the little cunt in cold sweats.

The remedy of course would be to strike while the iron's hot and invest heavily in the squad as well as giving Rice a bumper deal to ward off the vultures but although the covid jab has given me some side effects, flying pigs isn't one of them.

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Re: What will be our Final position and other questions?

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Clayton wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:59 pm
Gonzo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:41 pm

This is my father. He's escaped from the care home and is currently walking the streets armed only with his mobile phone and a can of Special Brew.

If anyone finds him please return the mad bastard to the appropriate authorities.
Don't be so hard on the old man Kris ,let the old boy have a second childhood , all these years of being a fan of West Ham couldn't have done him any good , and it now looks like he finally can .
To be fair he phoned me this morning Clayton. He's very optimistic.

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dorsetdano wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:59 am Everyone is going to laugh at me, but here it goes:-

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Here's my reckoning. Citeh and all of the teams around us are involved in one other important competitions (to their owners) at least. All the clubs are claiming their players are knackered, and results are backing that up. From now to the end of the season we only have one week where we play two games.

United (4 points ahead) are still in the FA Cup and Europa League, they will get to the next round of the Europa so that is a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be up to 11). Yes they have a big squad, but whenever Bruno Fernandez doesn't play they look shit and the guy is knackered.
Leicester (4 points ahead) also still in the FA Cup & Europa League, they will also play a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be to 11)
Chelsea also still in FA Cup & Champions League they will play a minimum of 3 more games than us (could be up to 10). Teucel is already beginning to lose it, subbing Hudson-Odoi 30 mins after he'd come on as a sub, will cause resentment in the squad. Also he continues to pick Werner when the guy is out of form/knackered. Chelsea's squad is a nightmare
Liverpool absolutely ravaged by injuries 5 points behind us, in Champions League; they will play a minimum of 2 more games (could be up to 7)
Everton 5 points behind and also still in the FA Cup, have one game in hand (unfortunately its vs WBA away) minimum 2 more games than us (could be 5)
Villa 9 points behind us, two games in hand; Grealish is injured
Spurs 9 points behind us , one game in hand. In League Cup final and Europa League, Minimum 4 more games than us, could be 8 more)
Arsenal 11 points behind us, minimum 3 more games, could be 7 more games.

Covid could trip up any of the above (or us)!

We need the key members of the squad to stay fit, Rice, Soucek, Dawson (can't believe I'm saying that), Fabianski, Ogbonna, Soufal, Lingard, Antonio. We also need some decisions going our way. Having had only one penalty this season is ridiculous. COYI
Great point.

Reading that makes me think,we could actually do it.You are really getting my hopes up Dan. :o

If we did finish Top 4,it would be one of the greatest achievements by this club,if not the greatest considering the times..

Back when we finished 3rd in 1986,you had the so called Big 5,but it was more equal than what it is nowadays..You did have a chance to lift silverware and finish in the Top 4 or even win the League.

Today,you have the United's,Liverpool's,with the City`s and Chelsea's that can spend money like water just on full backs.We cannot compete tbh and shouldn't be anywhere near the Top 4.

If somebody would have said,we'd be 5 points clear of the Champions and the highest London Club at the end of February,I would have said "You are off your head!".

What Moyes has achieved so far is astonishing ,but yet he still getting criticism.Mind you if we were top of the League,it would still happen.

I am just enjoying the ride..I don't expect to get to the CL,but if we did,it would some achievement.

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Gonzo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:41 pm
dorsetdano wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:59 am Everyone is going to laugh at me, but here it goes:-

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Here's my reckoning. Citeh and all of the teams around us are involved in one other important competitions (to their owners) at least. All the clubs are claiming their players are knackered, and results are backing that up. From now to the end of the season we only have one week where we play two games.

United (4 points ahead) are still in the FA Cup and Europa League, they will get to the next round of the Europa so that is a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be up to 11). Yes they have a big squad, but whenever Bruno Fernandez doesn't play they look shit and the guy is knackered.
Leicester (4 points ahead) also still in the FA Cup & Europa League, they will also play a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be to 11)
Chelsea also still in FA Cup & Champions League they will play a minimum of 3 more games than us (could be up to 10). Teucel is already beginning to lose it, subbing Hudson-Odoi 30 mins after he'd come on as a sub, will cause resentment in the squad. Also he continues to pick Werner when the guy is out of form/knackered. Chelsea's squad is a nightmare
Liverpool absolutely ravaged by injuries 5 points behind us, in Champions League; they will play a minimum of 2 more games (could be up to 7)
Everton 5 points behind and also still in the FA Cup, have one game in hand (unfortunately its vs WBA away) minimum 2 more games than us (could be 5)
Villa 9 points behind us, two games in hand; Grealish is injured
Spurs 9 points behind us , one game in hand. In League Cup final and Europa League, Minimum 4 more games than us, could be 8 more)
Arsenal 11 points behind us, minimum 3 more games, could be 7 more games.

Covid could trip up any of the above (or us)!

We need the key members of the squad to stay fit, Rice, Soucek, Dawson (can't believe I'm saying that), Fabianski, Ogbonna, Soufal, Lingard, Antonio. We also need some decisions going our way. Having had only one penalty this season is ridiculous. COYI
This is my father. He's escaped from the care home and is currently walking the streets armed only with his mobile phone and a can of Special Brew.

If anyone finds him please return the mad bastard to the appropriate authorities.
I think the majority know his your Dad Gonzo.

Make some great points and has got us lot dreaming on here.

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Gonzo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:41 pm
dorsetdano wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:59 am Everyone is going to laugh at me, but here it goes:-

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Here's my reckoning. Citeh and all of the teams around us are involved in one other important competitions (to their owners) at least. All the clubs are claiming their players are knackered, and results are backing that up. From now to the end of the season we only have one week where we play two games.

United (4 points ahead) are still in the FA Cup and Europa League, they will get to the next round of the Europa so that is a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be up to 11). Yes they have a big squad, but whenever Bruno Fernandez doesn't play they look shit and the guy is knackered.
Leicester (4 points ahead) also still in the FA Cup & Europa League, they will also play a minimum of 4 more games than us (could be to 11)
Chelsea also still in FA Cup & Champions League they will play a minimum of 3 more games than us (could be up to 10). Teucel is already beginning to lose it, subbing Hudson-Odoi 30 mins after he'd come on as a sub, will cause resentment in the squad. Also he continues to pick Werner when the guy is out of form/knackered. Chelsea's squad is a nightmare
Liverpool absolutely ravaged by injuries 5 points behind us, in Champions League; they will play a minimum of 2 more games (could be up to 7)
Everton 5 points behind and also still in the FA Cup, have one game in hand (unfortunately its vs WBA away) minimum 2 more games than us (could be 5)
Villa 9 points behind us, two games in hand; Grealish is injured
Spurs 9 points behind us , one game in hand. In League Cup final and Europa League, Minimum 4 more games than us, could be 8 more)
Arsenal 11 points behind us, minimum 3 more games, could be 7 more games.

Covid could trip up any of the above (or us)!

We need the key members of the squad to stay fit, Rice, Soucek, Dawson (can't believe I'm saying that), Fabianski, Ogbonna, Soufal, Lingard, Antonio. We also need some decisions going our way. Having had only one penalty this season is ridiculous. COYI
This is my father. He's escaped from the care home and is currently walking the streets armed only with his mobile phone and a can of Special Brew.

If anyone finds him please return the mad bastard to the appropriate authorities.
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COYI!!!

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mkhammer wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:23 am
h69 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:36 am

Fucking something up ?

Just for interest ..... If you owned a business making healthy profits, why would you think you were fucking something up and step down ?
Isn't the point to make money when you own a business ?
Think you need to re-read my post H...thats exactly what I said mate...you have(own) and run a business to make money...
if you own and run a company thats not realizing its potential,let someone else run it...tho you can still own it,or a good part of it.
If I'm not making enough money,so that I can't reinvest to make future profits...because my aim is short term cash profits,
therefore holding it back...my advisers would inform me I'm "Fuckin it up"..See my error and do something about it.
I don't think there is an error from their side of things. If you take the fans emotions out of it, they have bought a club, are making money out of it. Why would they step down ?

If they let someone else run it and still owned it, the money for transfers wont change. Maybe there would be a bit of better publicity but to be honest things would barely change

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if, yes a BIG IF......if West Ham finished 4th, Liverpool finished 6th with Chelsea 5th and if Liverpool win the Champions League and finished outside top 4, would that mean 4th place West Ham have to go to Europa? What if Liverpool 6th win the Champions League, Tottenham 9th win the Europaa League enroute to Champions League? That mean possible 6 clubs in Champions League if West Ham finished 4th..
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Whiskyman wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:56 am
palerider wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:28 am

Unless we make the Champions League, and I still can't believe I'm saying that, the Europa League will lose you money until you make the last 8. So it won't make any difference what team you put out unless the dwarf tells the kids and reserves to make their own way to Uzbekistan for a Thursday.

He'd love the former but the thought of the latter will have the little cunt in cold sweats.

The remedy of course would be to strike while the iron's hot and invest heavily in the squad as well as giving Rice a bumper deal to ward off the vultures but although the covid jab has given me some side effects, flying pigs isn't one of them.
Why would any club lose money in the Europa League.? Apparently clubs that get into the group stages receive just under 3 million Euros plus every group stage win pays 570,000 Euros. And of course there is TV money in addition and, at the moment BT show every UK teams matches.

Always makes me chuckle when all the "stans" get mentioned as possible negatives but teams from Holland, France and Belgium, not to mention Scotland, also take part you know. ;)

A good friend of mine , an Arsenal fan, hates the Europa League believing the Thursday/Sunday schedule screws up teams. But for the life of me I've never understood why it's harder to play on a Thursday and again on a Sunday rather than Wednesday followed by Saturday.

I'm probably in the minority but I like the Europa league as it gives clubs like us a chance of European competition once in a while. And of course would any of us ever get to sample the delights of Uzbekistan were it not for the football ?
I was curious so went for a butchers hook

https://sillyseason.com/money/europa-le ... ey-130308/

Not exactly peanuts.

Until you compare the prize money for the real thing

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.city ... -most/amp/
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Ibbyham wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:12 pm if, yes a BIG IF......if West Ham finished 4th, Liverpool finished 6th with Chelsea 5th and if Liverpool win the Champions League and finished outside top 4, would that mean 4th place West Ham have to go to Europa? What if Liverpool 6th win the Champions League, Tottenham 9th win the Europaa League enroute to Champions League? That mean possible 6 clubs in Champions League if West Ham finished 4th..
https://www.hammers.news/champions-leag ... me-fourth/
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