Hammers Chat

BlackDiamond wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:31 am

OZHAMMER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:17 am

Well, that’s my line of thinking too. As long as the ball is in the back of the net, do we really care who scored it?

And the stiker situation would be further eased if Benrahma could find his potential. His involvements have been restricted as I don't get the impression that David Moyes has much confidence in him.

I would have thought he would be worth a bit of investment in time, as the raw materials seem to be in place. At least use him for 30 mins when Bowen tires. These 5 min end of game cameos don't help him or the team.

tassiehammer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:07 am

Whiskyman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:44 am Tbh I think Lingard will end up at wherever Lingard wants to end up. Hopefully he feels settled at our gaff.

If he was a free agent maybe but he still has 1 year left on a man u contract, I read. If true then they'll have something to say about where he goes.
I'm not up with the info on a loan with an option to buy like we did with Soucek, has someone dropped the ball with JL or was we just happy for a loan through desperation? You can imagine the headlines next season if we're back fighting relegation without him.

tassiehammer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:07 am

Whiskyman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:44 am Tbh I think Lingard will end up at wherever Lingard wants to end up. Hopefully he feels settled at our gaff.

If he was a free agent maybe but he still has 1 year left on a man u contract, I read. If true then they'll have something to say about where he goes.
I'm not up with the info on a loan with an option to buy like we did with Soucek, has someone dropped the ball with JL or was we just happy for a loan through desperation? You can imagine the headlines next season if we're back fighting relegation without him.

h69 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:04 am

garnett wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:25 am

It`s a pity the season doesn`t end after 30 games, those of us without C&B glasses will still be shitting ourselves at 3 - 0 up.

Ok so we may finish 6th or 7th, I am not saying we will definitely finish 4th but Moyes is doing something right here given the fact we have 55 fucking points rather than the usual 35 at this stage..... still a cracking season whatever happens. Meanwhile 'young and progressive' Parker is slowly and surely taking his team down.

3 goals scored in each of the last 3 games. People wanted entertainment and our games are far from dull !!!

garnett wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 am

h69 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:04 am

Ok so we may finish 6th or 7th, I am not saying we will definitely finish 4th but Moyes is doing something right here given the fact we have 55 fucking points rather than the usual 35 at this stage..... still a cracking season whatever happens. Meanwhile 'young and progressive' Parker is slowly and surely taking his team down.

3 goals scored in each of the last 3 games. People wanted entertainment and our games are far from dull !!!

Morning h69,
We certainly have different visions on how OUR football club should be run and in which direction, but I believe our goal is the same.

Firstly, I will concede that moyes is doing something right, he has failed so many times in his managerial career without making concessions he had to eventually. Yes I do believe Scott Parker will become a good manager with time and backing as will others from his era, the future IMO
Einstein, Insanity; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. His support team has been great IMO.

Finally, EUROPE, I`ve stopped watching the video`s as I`ve said I dont own C&B glasses, WE as a football club are nowhere near ready to compete in Europe, we can`t even compete on a domestic level, am I the only one that remembers the Astra embarrassment, we wasnt ready then and we arent now.
Moyes is now running what`s left of a small squad into the ground, expect more injuries and suspensions.

I do hope I`m wrong, but I fear this season will be a one off, will Liverpool Arsenal Spurs Everton and Wolves be as bad next season ? I don`t believe so, I also believe Leeds Villa and Southampton will invest big time, WILL WE

Whiskyman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:10 am

garnett wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 am

Morning h69,
We certainly have different visions on how OUR football club should be run and in which direction, but I believe our goal is the same.

Firstly, I will concede that moyes is doing something right, he has failed so many times in his managerial career without making concessions he had to eventually. Yes I do believe Scott Parker will become a good manager with time and backing as will others from his era, the future IMO
Einstein, Insanity; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. His support team has been great IMO.

Finally, EUROPE, I`ve stopped watching the video`s as I`ve said I dont own C&B glasses, WE as a football club are nowhere near ready to compete in Europe, we can`t even compete on a domestic level, am I the only one that remembers the Astra embarrassment, we wasnt ready then and we arent now.
Moyes is now running what`s left of a small squad into the ground, expect more injuries and suspensions.

I do hope I`m wrong, but I fear this season will be a one off, will Liverpool Arsenal Spurs Everton and Wolves be as bad next season ? I don`t believe so, I also believe Leeds Villa and Southampton will invest big time, WILL WE

I wouldn't describe Moyes' tenure at Everton as failure. Whilst I agree the media machine overhyped his performances there to the extent he was regarded as having been successful, by Everton's recent standards he did manage to raise their profile. Imo they are another club whose fans have ideas above their station. They haven't been a seriously relevant force in football since the 80s.

I agree with you that we are nowhere near the standard to compete in the Champions League, but I do feel we are better equipped to do ourselves justice in the Europa League, which I feel is the best we can realistically hope for anyway as I expect both Liverpool and Chelsea to overtake us in the run in.

But tbh I don't see anyone outside the so called elite investing "big time" next season. An entire spectator free season has had a massive financial impact on all clubs and I think there will be a period of balance sheet rebuilding not just in this country but all across Europe. But with regard to recruitment I prefer the Moyes approach of waiting for the right player to become available to the ridiculous scatter gun principle employed by Redknapp back in the day where players totally unfit for any sort of purpose were brought in simply because, well, they were available.

I have still to be convinced that Benrahma is going to contribute much to our efforts but I don't think anyone can disagree that Dawson, Coufal & Soucek have proved to be excellent value for money acquisitions. If, as I expect, funds are limited in the summer I would rather see three more like them than another highly priced Benrahma.

garnett wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 am

h69 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:04 am

Ok so we may finish 6th or 7th, I am not saying we will definitely finish 4th but Moyes is doing something right here given the fact we have 55 fucking points rather than the usual 35 at this stage..... still a cracking season whatever happens. Meanwhile 'young and progressive' Parker is slowly and surely taking his team down.

3 goals scored in each of the last 3 games. People wanted entertainment and our games are far from dull !!!

Morning h69,
We certainly have different visions on how OUR football club should be run and in which direction, but I believe our goal is the same.

Firstly, I will concede that moyes is doing something right, he has failed so many times in his managerial career without making concessions he had to eventually. Yes I do believe Scott Parker will become a good manager with time and backing as will others from his era, the future IMO
Einstein, Insanity; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. His support team has been great IMO.

Finally, EUROPE, I`ve stopped watching the video`s as I`ve said I dont own C&B glasses, WE as a football club are nowhere near ready to compete in Europe, we can`t even compete on a domestic level, am I the only one that remembers the Astra embarrassment, we wasnt ready then and we arent now.
Moyes is now running what`s left of a small squad into the ground, expect more injuries and suspensions.

I do hope I`m wrong, but I fear this season will be a one off, will Liverpool Arsenal Spurs Everton and Wolves be as bad next season ? I don`t believe so, I also believe Leeds Villa and Southampton will invest big time, WILL WE

Whiskyman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:10 am

garnett wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 am

Morning h69,
We certainly have different visions on how OUR football club should be run and in which direction, but I believe our goal is the same.

Firstly, I will concede that moyes is doing something right, he has failed so many times in his managerial career without making concessions he had to eventually. Yes I do believe Scott Parker will become a good manager with time and backing as will others from his era, the future IMO
Einstein, Insanity; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. His support team has been great IMO.

Finally, EUROPE, I`ve stopped watching the video`s as I`ve said I dont own C&B glasses, WE as a football club are nowhere near ready to compete in Europe, we can`t even compete on a domestic level, am I the only one that remembers the Astra embarrassment, we wasnt ready then and we arent now.
Moyes is now running what`s left of a small squad into the ground, expect more injuries and suspensions.

I do hope I`m wrong, but I fear this season will be a one off, will Liverpool Arsenal Spurs Everton and Wolves be as bad next season ? I don`t believe so, I also believe Leeds Villa and Southampton will invest big time, WILL WE

I wouldn't describe Moyes' tenure at Everton as failure. Whilst I agree the media machine overhyped his performances there to the extent he was regarded as having been successful, by Everton's recent standards he did manage to raise their profile. Imo they are another club whose fans have ideas above their station. They haven't been a seriously relevant force in football since the 80s.

I agree with you that we are nowhere near the standard to compete in the Champions League, but I do feel we are better equipped to do ourselves justice in the Europa League, which I feel is the best we can realistically hope for anyway as I expect both Liverpool and Chelsea to overtake us in the run in.

But tbh I don't see anyone outside the so called elite investing "big time" next season. An entire spectator free season has had a massive financial impact on all clubs and I think there will be a period of balance sheet rebuilding not just in this country but all across Europe. But with regard to recruitment I prefer the Moyes approach of waiting for the right player to become available to the ridiculous scatter gun principle employed by Redknapp back in the day where players totally unfit for any sort of purpose were brought in simply because, well, they were available.

I have still to be convinced that Benrahma is going to contribute much to our efforts but I don't think anyone can disagree that Dawson, Coufal & Soucek have proved to be excellent value for money acquisitions. If, as I expect, funds are limited in the summer I would rather see three more like them than another highly priced Benrahma.

only1salty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:16 am

Whiskyman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:10 am

I wouldn't describe Moyes' tenure at Everton as failure. Whilst I agree the media machine overhyped his performances there to the extent he was regarded as having been successful, by Everton's recent standards he did manage to raise their profile. Imo they are another club whose fans have ideas above their station. They haven't been a seriously relevant force in football since the 80s.

I agree with you that we are nowhere near the standard to compete in the Champions League, but I do feel we are better equipped to do ourselves justice in the Europa League, which I feel is the best we can realistically hope for anyway as I expect both Liverpool and Chelsea to overtake us in the run in.

But tbh I don't see anyone outside the so called elite investing "big time" next season. An entire spectator free season has had a massive financial impact on all clubs and I think there will be a period of balance sheet rebuilding not just in this country but all across Europe. But with regard to recruitment I prefer the Moyes approach of waiting for the right player to become available to the ridiculous scatter gun principle employed by Redknapp back in the day where players totally unfit for any sort of purpose were brought in simply because, well, they were available.

I have still to be convinced that Benrahma is going to contribute much to our efforts but I don't think anyone can disagree that Dawson, Coufal & Soucek have proved to be excellent value for money acquisitions. If, as I expect, funds are limited in the summer I would rather see three more like them than another highly priced Benrahma.

Benrahama has not been given a chance because he doesn't run hard in straight lines.

Dawson is a squad player. Yes he has been outstanding but last few games the wheels are coming off. Not even close to Ogbonna.

Coufal is a limited player - but a proper right back.

Soucek is top draw at what he does.

Our squad is so light that the Europa League will see us near the bottom by Christmas unless we recruit heavily.