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Gold,Sullivan and Brady challenged.

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Gold,Sullivan and Brady Challenged




Life has changed, but our position as your supporters’ group has not.




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The following is a clear and concise challenge to GSB to answer for their performance. Everyone (almost) knows there's something terribly wrong with things at WHU and that GSB, as stewards of our club, must be held to account. I await their response with fingers crossed but breath not held.


Life has changed, but our position as your supporters’ group has not.

As the wheels of society begin to gather pace again and we cautiously take our first steps out of the shadows of lockdown, now is a good time to remind ourselves and those who might not understand our position. Why do we find ourselves where we do: a supporter’s group, in protest, against three individuals and their leadership of our club?

Whilst the pressure exerted by West Ham fans may have been temporarily released, with good reason, feelings remain as strong as ever. It was only right to down the tools of protest and to work quietly behind closed doors in recent months. The respite for Gold, Brady and Sullivan should not be confused for a change of heart on the part of our supporters, as recent independent surveys continue to amplify their concern.

There are plenty of reasons as to why we must continue to work on behalf of our members who yearn for a change in leadership and a new era at West Ham United Football Club. We have therefore compiled an overview of some of the actions taken under the tenure of our current custodians the consequences of which, have led to so many of the West Ham family feeling a real disconnect with our club.

There have been way too many instances of things said by David Gold, David Sullivan and Karren Brady to supporters of WHUFC which subsequently turned out to be inaccurate. This is particularly relevant to the events prior to the sale of the Boleyn ground.

There are examples where the public behaviour of the board of directors has heaped shame, ridicule and derision onto the good name of WHUFC and its supporters.

This demonstrated behaviour is also at the root cause of the animosity felt by WHUFC supporters towards the current custodians of our club.

This simply must change.

Accordingly, on behalf of our membership and many more aggrieved and disappointed West Ham fans, Hammers United believe we are duty bound to challenge the board and in an effort to improve communication between supporters and club, request a response in no particular order from David Gold, David Sullivan and Karren Brady to the following accusations:


The unnecessary charging of high interest rates on loans.
The inability to reduce the levels of debt to themselves as swiftly as possible.
The under-selling of the Clubs’ fixed assets.
Delayed injection of equity.
Inappropriate use of social media on topics including but not exclusive too players, transfers and inflated ambitions which have often been laughable and undermining.
Inappropriate representation and spin using favoured media journalists and mediums.
Gross incompetence in the execution of their roles and responsibilities, letting down the supporters of WHUFC, local businesses and residents of Newham.
Continued failing to liaise constructively with independent supporter groups.
Creating a lack of faith and trust in the season ticket waiting list.
Refusing to take full away ticket allocations.
Inadequate supporter engagement concerning redesign of the crest.
The repeated dangerous practice of selling tickets to away fans in home areas.
Placing commercial objectives above and capitalising on the emotional bond and loyalty supporters have with their club by attempting to rebrand West Ham United Football Club.
Failing to deliver a world class football stadium.
Failing to deliver a world class team.
Delivering an unsuccessful transition to the Olympic Park and in spite of demonstrated supporter dissatisfaction, publicly labelling it as ‘the most successful ever’.
Failing to leave a legacy of affordable housing at the site of The Boleyn Ground.
Demonstrating poor commercial acumen in massively undervaluing the site of the Boleyn, which saw it subsequently resold, missing out on millions in potential revenue that could potentially been used to reduce club debts owed.
Failing to ‘look after’ the traders from the Boleyn, and not preserving our identity there.
Failure to deliver on the promise of ‘World Class transport links’, with the journey times of many supporters considerably increased compared to the journey to the Boleyn.
Inadequately engaging with season ticket holders about the new seating reconfiguration.
Seeking to censor and influence broadcasters and journalists, particularly concerning supporter views on anything critical or potentially negative regarding the Club manner the club is being run in.


So today we invite David Gold, David Sullivan, and Karren Brady to publicly refute these accusations and invite them to meet us and help us understand the reasoning behind so many mistakes made under their tenure.

At a time when we are all positively looking forward to getting fans back into football stadiums, it is perhaps noteworthy to recall the last home game fans could attend at West Ham saw the largest ever public protest by our supporters (and possibly at any other English Club) over its mismanagement.

The leadership team at West Ham are on record as saying they are but custodians of ‘Our Club’ so after yet another season of abject failure delivered by them, and in light of the massive challenges to be faced ahead in a post-pandemic world, it is with great disappointment that we advise you that our members and many more West ham fans grow ever more fearful for it, and it’s future under your stewardship.

Hammers United remain committed to working hard to improve things for all West Ham United supporters and whilst we welcome the recent positive steps taken in regard to supporter engagement, will stand strong in representing whatever stance our members ask us to adopt as their association.

We will keep you updated as to the response of the club.


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I know I shall be accused of criticising Hammers United just for the sake of it but consider this:

Point 2----The inability to reduce the levels of debt to themselves as swiftly as possible.
Point 4----Delayed injection of equity.

In what language is an injection of equity not a loan ? You are asking for the levels of debt to be reduced yet asking for additional equity (loans) to be pumped in. Don't you see the contradiction ?

There are some very valid points made but isn't it a shame when those points get lost amidst stuff like the above? And there will always be winners and losers when it comes to journey times. Although for the life of me I can't imagine anyone living more than 4 or 5 miles away having a longer journey time now than they used to have. I used to know a couple of ST holders who lived in Barking and usually walked, or hopped on a bus if it was raining, so I guess for people like them it does take a bit longer. But anyone coming in from any distance away, particularly driving, has to be better off in terms of journey time.
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I suppose on the one hand its about loaning the club money and claiming that “the £110m debt has been paid down” (which Karren Brady wrote about in The Sun) while taking huge interest payments (which Karren Brady failed to write about in The Sun), yet on the other hand only actually putting some money into the club a few weeks ago, after asking others to stump up, in the wake of the pandemic fallout.

Re the transport, it's fair to say that there will be winners and losers whenever a football club is relocated but when part of the sales pitch for the relocation was predicated on world class transport links that have often seen zero train services coming in from Essex, very high charges in car parks packed with shoppers and that long, boring, walk to the stadium which older and less able supporters still have to contend with, I'd argue that in true GSB style the reality is somewhat different from the dream.

Not every question asked of GSB will be of the same importance or relevance to every supporter but with so many things wrong at WHU, for which the ultimate responsibility lies with GSB, there is something for everyone here and that should be the most worrying thing of all - that GSB's piisspoor stewardship of our club has touched so many of our supporters.

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IABATAC wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:43 pm I suppose on the one hand its about loaning the club money and claiming that “the £110m debt has been paid down” (which Karren Brady wrote about in The Sun) while taking huge interest payments (which Karren Brady failed to write about in The Sun), yet on the other hand only actually putting some money into the club a few weeks ago, after asking others to stump up, in the wake of the pandemic fallout.

Re the transport, it's fair to say that there will be winners and losers whenever a football club is relocated but when part of the sales pitch for the relocation was predicated on world class transport links that have often seen zero train services coming in from Essex, very high charges in car parks packed with shoppers and that long, boring, walk to the stadium which older and less able supporters still have to contend with, I'd argue that in true GSB style the reality is somewhat different from the dream.

Not every question asked of GSB will be of the same importance or relevance to every supporter but with so many things wrong at WHU, for which the ultimate responsibility lies with GSB, there is something for everyone here and that should be the most worrying thing of all - that GSB's piisspoor stewardship of our club has touched so many of our supporters.
Is it not the case that money is borrowed from the banks at 1% and then lent to the club,West Ham at 8%. That generates a nice profit but it takes West Ham a bit longer to pay the debt back. This obviously only works because the owners are so generous on the repayment schedule.

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prince of wales wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:01 pm





















Gold,Sullivan and Brady Challenged




Life has changed, but our position as your supporters’ group has not.




http://hammersunited.com/goldsullivan-a ... hallenged/
All excellent points but I still maintain the “three F’s”....
“Fix the Fucking Football”.

You’ll find a lot of those other bullet points will fade into the background if the ‘football’ club pays some more attention to (shock-horror) the ‘football’.
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ToneLoc wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:17 pm
prince of wales wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:01 pm





















Gold,Sullivan and Brady Challenged




Life has changed, but our position as your supporters’ group has not.




http://hammersunited.com/goldsullivan-a ... hallenged/
All excellent points but I still maintain the “three F’s”....
“Fix the Fucking Football”.

You’ll find a lot of those other bullet points will fade into the background if the ‘football’ club pays some more attention to (shock-horror) the ‘football’.
Kenny Lynch is right here.

Win a few games and all the women wetting themselves will love Sugo.

West Ham fans now have no heart for the club and just want to go on social media and boast that we are 7th and heading for the Europa league.
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Is it not the case that money is borrowed from the banks at 1% and then lent to the club,West Ham at 8%. That generates a nice profit but it takes West Ham a bit longer to pay the debt back. This obviously only works because the owners are so generous on the repayment schedule.
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According to Karren Brady "the £110m debt has been paid down" so surely there ought to be nothing for West Ham to pay back to anyone. Were this case, our owners would have paid the debt themselves (call it an investment as this was part and parcel of acquiring the club in the first place) and sought to get a return by making the club profitable based on their own claims and promises to the supporters (or as they call us - customers) of a world class stadium with a world class team playing European football and with all the additional revenue streams that would come with such lofty ambitions.

Instead we have no ground of our own, we fight relegation and the latest set of accounts announced losses of more than £28m with the statement: “The group’s principal risk remains that of the football club being relegated… with the serious financial consequences which follow.”

Consider this for a moment. What if it wasn't us that had gone through 10 years of GSB, with all that has happened, but instead it was Spurs. Would we be looking on with envy and asking "why can't we be like that?". Not in a million years - we would be pissing ourselves laughing as WHL was turned into flats that locals couldn't afford to buy as the club diced with relegation yet again in a rented athletics stadium while a succession of underperforming players and managers came and went (and some came back again) and away fans sang "you're not Tottenham anymore", none louder than us, to which reply came there none.

GSB did this. They did it to us. They continue to do it. And they won't stop.

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Kenny Lynch :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bring back Jonathon !

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Newmarket wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:39 pm Kenny Lynch :lol: :lol: :lol:

You know what I'm saying
Everyone knows Kenny Lynchs' name but no one knows what he does - sing, comedy, actor who knows?- he just sort of exists.....after seeing this posters videos I get the same vibe.
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