Whiskyman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:18 am
terrya1965 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:49 pm
At least we were a lot better in the 1960's to the 1980's..We won trophies and competed..We never won the League,but at least we topped the table occasionally.Now we got to be happy just to be in the PL...Cups,wtf are they,this day and age?..Success for us is 16th in the PL NOW.
Thing is,the teams we compete with down at the bottom,don`t get 60,000 every week and spend silly wages on either has beens or Johnny foreigner turning up for a big pay day.
60s is a bit early for me as I didn't really start getting involved until my early teens (early 70s) and I agree the 80s team was a bloody good watch. But the year after our best ever when we finished third it dawned on me that I was supporting a football club that totally lacked any ambition to achieve anything. The one thing above all others that did it for me was the sale of Paul Goddard.
Like I say failure's OK if you fail trying. But when you shrug your shoulders and don't even fucking bother that is inexcusable. Tbh I should have given the fucking club up there and then. But I was a mug and put up with the ethos of failure and making up the numbers (and that FUCKING SONG which almost celebrates it) for the next 20 years plus until I eventually binned my STs.
What a silly cunt I was.
Like yourself I found the lack of ambition, pretty much since I started being aware of the way the club was run, inexcusable, but unlike yourself I can never give up on them.
Which seems at odds with my view at the moment, which is to do with giving up on not West Ham as such, but football.
I've watched two games, both on the same day. West Ham v Wolves and Bournemouth v Palace. Since then. zero interest. Others I'm sure have been watching the other strugglers continue to struggle, but I couldn't give a toss. If we go down we go down. I've lived with it before and I will again.
If we stay up nothing will change. Statler and Waldorf will remind us that if you continue to do everything wrong in the same way as has been done in the past it's the definition of insanity. I don't know what a post-Covid world will look like in the football sense but anything different to what we're witnessing at the ILS now will be for the better. Even if it's in the Championship.
I'm praying that for the start of next season, even with no fans, this BLM insanity can stop. If taking the knee is now the norm forever then fuck that. I'll no longer be a football fan. And I won't be alone. White working and middle class fans of sick of the shit will leave in droves and if the PL and it's member clubs think that the leftie activists and the supposedly BAME oppressed will fill the gap they're deluded.
But if reason wins the day, I'll be back on board. Sticking pins in my voodoo dwarf doll and hoping he's in agony.
And looking forward to the team realising you're allowed to cross the half way line.