My neanderthal comment was a reference to the conditions many of us endured back in the day. Nothing to do with standing v seating, in fact I think I did say that safe standing areas should be introduced as many seem to want them. I was referring back to the times, which many of us will remember, when, just to quote 3 examples, the old Shed at Stamford Bridge in fron of the toilet block at the top of it which, on occasions, saw rivers of piss flowing down the terraces, Upton Park (North Bank), may have been the same on the South Bank but I never stood that end, when particularly on a hot day the stench from the khazis was often overwhelming, and The Dell at Southampton when if you wanted a piss, or heaven forbid a crap, during the game it was an impossibility to actually do.only1salty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:14 amPut me down as a Neanderthal.Whiskyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:35 am
And you say I want a "glossy product". I think obnly a neanderthal would honestly say the conditions we endured when we started going to matches were preferable to what we have now. And before we get into a discussion about sitting or standing I do happen to agree that the so called safe standing areas should be encouraged. The stadia we now watch the game in are far superior to some of the crapholes we've visited on our travels in the past. And the quality of pitches has improved immeasurably since the days when Upton Park had been turned into a mudbath by the bloody British Legion Band even before the kick off or games at Derby's old Baseball Ground could only be played when the tide was out.
Decently priced tickets, standing for 90 minutes, crazy times when we scored and when we were getting stuffed, all shared by standing shoulder to shoulder in some craphole with a few beers.
Pisses all over my comfy seat at the soulless bowl where the view of the pitch is better from google earth and there are more tourists than windsor castle.
Memories for life have been made at football matches. When I look back at games at the soulless bowl I struggle to remember one. It's not the football - its the people you share it with.
Your neanderthal #1
Some people prefer standing to sitting, no one should see that as a problem, but sorry, anyone who pines for the old days, standing in a piss river in South West London, qualifies as a neanderthal in my book.